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Everything posted by frankgrimes
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If Kevin is already set on his destination there is no way any sane GM would give up a first and a prospect for 3 months of him. Some of those asking prices are just ridiculous a lot of sellers will have to come down with their prices if they really want to sell.
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3 round pick for a press box guy nice deal. Next up Vanek, Green, Goose/Tatar and Smith
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Can't believe some people are surprised that Shattenkirk's camp nixed the deal this is his chance to cash in big and finally decide where he wants to play. Players of his caliber aren't going to give up this chance easily. I mean, there are chances he would have landed somewhere where he doesn't want to play and then have to play there for the next 7 years. TSN and SN are for sure trying to hype this thing up but like last year not a lot is going to happen. Duchene, Landeskog is more material for the off season and Hopefully Holland is working the phones hard and sells Vanek, Green and other veterans before opponents decide to sell some biggere names.
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Yeah I don't know why people are getting worked up about this guy
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...nuff said. Lol so you wouldn't trade a guy who might be a number 3 center or at best a second line center for some of the best defenseman in the game...[emoji79] If Cheveldayoff offers Trouba I'd drive AA or whomever to the airport in short you take that deal and run before Cheveldayoff becomes sobber.
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So he is this years Larkin or Goose from a few years ago were some people were calling him the next 40 goal scorer or whatever. Teams are built from the backend so if someone offers a legitimate young top 4 defender he is gone. That's the beauty of being a seller for the right but realistic price everyone is available
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Of course you take Trouba. Good size, tremendous potential, Michigan guy so there is a a deep connection. Liljegren needs to simplify his game and work on his defense if he wants to be a top pairing guy in this league. If it's not Patrick and Winnipeg offers Trouba for the pick or for AA, Mantha take it an run with it it's a great trade. But with Myers having injury problems I'm not sure about him being on the market.
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I just hope this is Holland finally gearing up for drivingt the price of his players up in order to sell a lot of the players.
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Miller can kiss Holland's ass for keeping him on the team way longer than he should have. The guy made one heck of a career out of basically being a fourth line penalty killing specalist. I wish him the best of luck wherever but it's clear he doesn't provide anything to the Wings right now, which will make trading him very tough. Plus he isn't lighting the AHL on fire either so unless a team really needs depth I don't see him being claimed or traded for even if it's just the conditional draft pick.
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If someone offers a solid pick you take it and run. If the asking price for Vanek is too high lower it and get something before he walks for nothing in July.
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Easy answer Sakic is looking for a top pairing guy around 25 years old, failing that it's a top 4 defenseman + 1 round pick + prospect. So basically Lark in + first round pick (top 5 this year) + a good AHL player ...that's not something the Wings can give up on the verge of a rebuild it's just too much pieces going back.
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I wouldn't expect a lot of movement come trade deadline, even if one of the big three from the Avs is in play who has the cap space and is willing to pay the high asking price? Personally I'm looking forward to seeing the Wings doing what they should've done since 2012 rebuild this thing from the ground up. Get what you can for Vanek and Green and then go from there, if someone offers a solid player for Goose, Tatar they are gone..if a contender wants depth the Wings have it for the right price. This could be a deadline were the Wings finally load up on prospects and picks I'm so looking forward to it.
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Would have to think about that long and hard but I guess I would do it because this will be the highest pick since ages. Huge fan of Larkin and I think he is the potential to be a great second line center don't know if he'll ever be good enough for first line duties.
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Well Cheveldayoff could just phone McPhee and ask him about Trouba for their 6 overall, so he would get a pick for a guy who will not sign an extension with his team, not bad at all. I think Trouba will be better than every available defender from this draft class but the Wings also need a real number 1 center and I'm willing to take my chances with Patrick but if it's anything less than that I'd take Trouba.
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And why? Because other teams have drastically increased their scouting efforts in europe it's almost impossible to find some gems in the later rounds now, that's why first round picks are so valuable in todays NHL. The Leafs have a great guy to oversee their scouting department in Marc Hunter but they've also had the pleasure of picking very early.
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Depending on position and pick for first overall? No otherwise yes. Trouba will soon be an UFA so the Wings could try to sign him and a another piece to the rebuild comw june
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Yeah that's the only reason I can think of.
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I want both, after next year Trouba will be an UFA so he can choose his destination. I'm sure getting Patrick would make the wings a more favorable target for him. I would try to get Liljegren or Foote (if he is willing to report) at 5
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This team can't even compete for the best owner in all of sports. I'm done with that sorry excuse of a team wearing the winged wheel on their chest. I want someone from the outside coming in with full authority to clean house, like Toronto did under Shanahan. Larkin, Mantha, AA, Danny D. are pieces to build around other than them good bye and it's also time for the architect of this to take responsibility and move up or out. He did a lot of great things but he has no clue how to do a rebuild which is ok he never had to go through one. Bring in Maloney and Hitchcock please
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Whos your source saying he has? I figured the usual Holland fans are making things up again.
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Source? Is anyone of the mentioned coaches in a role with the Wings? No they aren't so that's your source it's called redwings.nhl.com "he may"...and then talking about absolutely nothing to quote Nelson HA...HA
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You do know and realize that a coach like Julien doesn't come along very often? You also realize that neither Gallant nor Hitchcock have received an offer from the Wings or even being offered some sort advisor role? So tell me why I should think that it was different this time? Ok so Bergervin the GM of a first place team moved very quickly, newsflash Wings are last move quicker!
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He had: - blank checque from the best owner in all of sports - Hall of famers ruling the ice - advantage because thanks to Hakan the Wings oversea scouting was unmatched for a long period of time - enough room to cover up some stuff thanks to an endless budget and no CBA in the pre cap era
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Sadly yes the guy is loyal to a fault and has lost his hunger to build a cup winner. Julien of the market without receiving an offer from the Wings let that sink in. I just hope at some point Chris or whoever is going to be the new owner will tell him to step up or step down
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Vanek will give the Wings a solid return, something in the ballpark of a second rounder and a solid prospect which is still MUCH better than losing the guy for nothing in the summer. GMs aren't stupid they've seen him playing in contract and non contract years I'm sure most know what they are getting which is basically a guy with a good net front presence but let's be honest he is a third liner on a cup contender.