frankgrimes

Philly then would go to the union and if they are giving their OK, the NHL would be overmatched because of the Suter/Parise deals in terms of leverage.

The NHLPA will not rollover like they did last time, Fehr will eat Bettman and his parity/wellfare/expansion attitude alive if not, we will end up with the 3 lockout under Bettman and hopefully he gets the boot finally, such an atrocious person to represent the league.

How can people seriously be bitching about a great caphit for probably the nr.1 defenseman in the league? Frontloading the contract was a brilliant part from Holmgren. Why should the NHL step in? This is exactly what happens if you are using money from franchises, who actually make money to support the wellfare clubs, but I really doub t Nashville doesn't match this, Weber is their franchise they can not afford to lose him.

Little overpayment but still an ok deal for both sides. Let us see what Quincey can do now, hopefully more than last season.

As crazy as this offersheet sounds, we could have easily made an even better one (15 years 110 million + signing bonus + performance...), its Shea Weber damnit. For us this is bad, because Weber will never see UFA status he either goes to Philly or be a Pred for life. NOW finding a replacement for Lidstrom is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I think this is more like Weber saying "this is the deal I want pay me and I stay if not Philadelphia is my new home". Predators can't risk losing Weber and Suter in one offseason, they for sure match.

This is summing up my feelings exactly. Even normal guys like us are using a cab to come home safely, but some millionaires can't? People complained about Kane but at least he didn't risk the well being of others and just had a good time. If I were a GM thankfully for this guy I am not, I would suspend him.

This is exactly why you don't sign questionable guys to huge contracts, once they have signed they think, they own the world. Pathetic POS paveliec. Glad nothing serious happened.

Thats a huge overpayment 6,08 for a guy who doesn't play defense? *lol*

Doan wants a cup so the Canucks do make a lot of sense Sedin - Sedin - Doan = killer

I think it is really simple: 1. Sign a year deal and proof your worth or $ign in the KHL

The main point for the PAnhl will now be to counter with an even offer, to send out a clear message. I really hope the players take this as an insult and Fehr will piss off Butchman with his counteroffer. Should we lose another season it is the owners fault and hopefully the last time we have seen this idiot as a commissioner. I mean how can you justify 3 lockout under 1 commissioner?

This is beyond ridiculous, ....the owners seriously. I know its about starting low, but I really hope Fehr and the NHLPA will throw them a big F...you combined with a statement about not playing with us or we won't negotiate any further. It is so funny, the owners got exactly what they wanted during the last CBA and now it isn't good enough anymore? Talk about a bunch of superwealth capitalists, shame on them go Fehr go! As a player and/or PA representive I would take this offer as offensive and counter with something like: 1. increase player revenue from 57 to 75 % 2. 25 year contracts limit 3. 3 years in the NHL before becoming UFA 4. 1 year entry level contract 5. teams can't walk from salary arbitration but players can Sounds stupid? Yes, but it is just the opposite from the things the owners are asking for, hello lockout bye season 2013

Kosittsin easily, he will join his bff soon in the KHL.

This is smart from Kenny. What were people expecting him to say? "Well the current roster isn't good enough, this team has no chance", can you imagine what message that sends to a player? I am tired of reading about Semin, if he doesn't want to sign for one year, he won't be Wing, period. The roster needs indeed work but there is nothing outthere, so staying pat is smart, panic signings are kneejerk!

Give him 5,5 or 6 for one year, we could need what Doan can bring.

I like this trade, Stevie adds size and toughness for a low cost. Would have loved this guy wearing the winged wheel though no way, St.Lo uis trades him to us.

Somehow I am getting the feeling, some people would rather overpay/mortage our future for the sake of it, instead of missing the playoffs for the first time since forever? Getting a bit tired of the stuff like "Holland doesn't do anything, he has lost it...." I'll ask you this, whom besides Doan do you consider a shortterm solution? Keep in mind: ->Nash: au revoir Nyquist, Smith, Filpula + ->Semin: looking for longer contract we can't offer him that ->Carle: for 5,5 if so you can't be serious sorry. ->Purcell: 4.5? seriously Y ->Steve Ott: for a second line center? really ->Yandle: au revoie Nyquist, Smith, Franzen This UFA pool is comparable to the draft, after the top 5 at best guys a huge dropoff. Shero who is deservingly called one of the best GMs currently hasn't done anything either, what about Poile from the Predators. My point is that: its easy to lay down the blame hammer on Kenny, when you look at it though, there simple isn't anything outthere for the better GMs in the league right now.

I doubt this will be the final roster, bit if it indeed is, we'll be fighting for the playoffs. Still better than risking the future for shortterm help I guess. Can't wait to see what Smith and Nyquist can do.

Why do people still use unreliable twitter sources, if you want to use that crap follow well respected guys such as Lebrun, McKenzie, Dreger or Button. To be honest, if we are talking about one year I'd rather have Doan the guy has heart, leadership and grit. I find it hard to believe, that people are still dreaming about Ryan or Nash, I don't want to lose Smith or Nyquist and you can bet these two will have to go the other way for either one ++++

While I am all for adding toughness (wanted Big Scott), this thread is about the perfect human having a job in the organization.

Good riddance there Alexander, no sane NHL team will match that. Like another poster mentioned, if we are really that desperate Kenny could go crazy and offer 8 million $ for one season, but I doubt.

He is looking for 5 years and at least 6 million, should that be true I hope Pittsburgh or New Jersey will sign him. As for Holland give the guy 1 year 5.5 take it or leave it.

Of course why would any team need a top 5 alltime-defender? Sometimes I wonder, if this guy is just trolling for the sake of trolling?

I think both are just shortterm solutions, hardly fixing our biggest need » defense. Even with Semin and Doan this roster is not a cup contender, which has to be our goal in the long run. My fears are, we won't have enough money next season to try another run at the top UFAs.

If there is somerthing outthere, Holland will make the deal, period. Pittsburgh is in the same position there defense is Letang + nothing. Doan stated time and time again, he will not sign before monday.