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yeah, sorry. meant to quote DeGraa55

woah woah woah!!! who are YOU to call ME intelligent? the nerve of some people, I swear... my god, when you lay it all out there, coupled with all the guys that were drafted with him as a gm, it really goes to show, he has no idea what he is doing

no, my source has a battle axe... ok i lied, it was a bagel, but he will share

I think he meant Holland haters would eat crow if he traded franzen

The scouts advise him. If you think Holland makes every decision on his own, you are sorely mistaken. He relies on the scouts and trusts them, and he pick players off the list they come up with together.

I apologize. I did so in the other thread, and I forgot in here. Long day

I live next to Detroit, I have family all over Michigan. I am not insulting the city, but that is the reality of it, the players don't want to put their families at risk. Before the cap Holland could throw as much money as needed to bring players in, now it's not attractive anymore. The city is bankrupt, police can't keep the peace, half the time the power doesn't work, this is what you see on the news. This is what the players family sees and refuse to go live there. I have no problems with the city personally.

I'd love to get iggy, help show the young kids the ropes

No source to show, I know someone close to Holland. I only get to talk to him maybe once a year though. That's why when I do, I get all kinds of info at once, just like last year. But their intentions are to trade pulkinnen in a package, they know he probably won't have a shot at making the team with nyquist Tatar jurco sheahan and mantha. He will be traded before the end of the season in a package. Like it or not. Has no balls? Would trade our most valuable assets for players, literally almost every team wants a kings ransom. The one team that didn't was San Jose, and guess what, Thornton wouldn't waive his no trade clause to go to Detroit. No one wants to bring their families to a gang infested neighborhood to play hockey. San Jose was going to trade him pretty cheap too.

yup, which is why you hear every year that holland is trying to get him, but nothing materializes from it.

Yandle is really good and young. But definitely not worth that price tag, which is why Holland basically told them to f off.

Actually Holland has not been sitting on his hands the past two years. Everyone wants any two of nyquist, Tatar and mantha and that's it. And jarnkrok did in fact tell Holland he won't play another season in the ahl, he wanted guaranteed nhl time, which is why he was traded. Pulkinnen will also be traded or let to walk, he won't be making the team.

Yep, he is apparently aggressively trying for 2 puck moving dmen (Myers or Boyle being the second), and a top six forward which he's currently really trying for iginla.

We will most likely lock up niskanen 7 years $42 million. Holland is going all out for him. Also most likely unless we are outbid, Boyle and iginla. Yandle is a definite no, they want nyquist, Tatar, jurco, mantha, and a first.

I've heard from a non quotable source, which is (very) close to Holland, apparently niskanen really wants to come here and we are very high on his list. Also we won't get yandle, price is all of nyquist, Tatar, jurco and mantha + first. Holland is probably going to give him 7 years $42 million. Just a heads up. Niskanen that is

It's always a crapshoot lop

Not every pick works out. Suck it up. Did you believe in nyquist, Tatar, jurco, sheahan or any other prospect?

I once saw Ken Holland murder a baby duck with his own hands.

Actually no, quite different. There's no need to criticize everything. It's like when you hate a kid in grade 7 and he's eating a sandwich and even that pisses you off. "Look at that ******* eating that sandwich. Who does he think he is the president?"

Well look at ribeiros picture on nhl.com he looks like he is on drugs for sure.

It sounded to me like there was uncertainty with Boyle, not niskanen. It seemed pretty clear they want niskanen and will do whatever it takes. Perhaps they want two dmen

You think they would get $14 million... That's a bit high, don't Ya think

So then this will be the time he is right lol

They have to unload him before the deadline or wait till free agent frenzy. Detroit has a higher first round pick than Pittsburgh and Chicago and it's not a very good draft year, so I would be ok with it. Throw in Tatar and it's a pretty good trade in my books.