Euro_Twins

Ya the only problem with "forcing" him to play like that, is that you are also forcing an injury. The last few years Pasha has become more injury prone, and forcing him to work much harder is fun to watch, but not if it will knock him out for 15 games.

AS much asCleary may have something on babs, I'm starting to think babs is screwing with Pasha... Abby on the second line? Cleary got his goal for the next 8 games, so he needs not worry.

I doubt that, Cleary gets top 6 minutes for doing nothing, this leads me to believe that Filppula won't get traded or anything of the like. He may be in a scoring rut currently (a la Zetterberg last year) but he'll come out of it

So aside from bringing in Perry (which we can't do till he's ufa anyways) what have you done? Gotten rid of our #1 goalie for some reason, and brought up another 2 ahl'ers from the griffins? glad you aren't gm

Lashoff, Smith, Emmerton, Tatar, Andersson, Abby, Helm, are all players under 25, or just turned 25/26 within the last year and have been playing with us since before they were 25

Wait... What are you trying to say here? Our actual lineup isn't the Grand Rapids Red Wings? ok then lol

Not against the wings, he always seems to have Zetterbergs number, and seems to play very hard against us all the time. I would agree he gets a lot of praise, but most of it is well earned, he works hard and makes a lot of great saves.

Fil has been given bad linemates all year long, with the exception of Datsyuk bouncing between the two lines, and Frnazen. I think an injection of youth, speed, and some skill is exactly what he needs on his wing, no bert, sammy, and cleary, slowing him down

how? I like the way he played, but he has been injured since after game 2 of the season, then came back played one game and is injured again. If anything I would say he's getting easy paychecks

Naw, get Norm Maracle back in net

Don't get me wrong, I was defending your point. Zetterberg is a beast (especially this year) he is great with the puck, and does an awesome job holding on to it, and it is hard to get it from him when he has it, he is very smart defensively and offensively, and is one of the best players in the game, but that doesn't change that Datsyuk is on a completely different level

I beg to differ, if he can go agaisnt 3/4 line grinders, who generally are the bigger tougher guys, he will have no problem against the top lines when it comes to battling against the boards not saying you're wrong, but I would love to see an article about babcock and Holland not seeing eye to eye. That may explain why babs is sabotaging the team by giving cleary so many minutes

video proof won't even sway the minds of some people here. Nor the fact that he has 3 selke's and 4 lady byng's and Zetterbergs only awards were conn smythe in 2008 and red wings team rookie of the year

Here is something to back up your argument 2010-2011 NHL Players Poll: Hardest to Take the Puck Off of, Cleanest Player.[13] 2011-2012 NHL Players Poll: Smartest Player, Most Difficult to Play Against, Hardest to Take the Puck From, Most Difficult to Stop, Cleanest Player, Toughest Forward to Play Against.[13]

Go troll somewhere else please. On a side note, after pavels goal, all he got was a spot on the sidecolumn of NHL's page, and nothing on the main part about the wings game. Now today because the pens and flyers are playing, there is a big picture of he who shall not be named, and they are claiming he is back to being the best in the league. Please show me something he has done better then Datsyuk or Z this year, rant over. (please don't turn this into a discussion about him, I just wanted to point out no matter what Pasha does, he still isn't ever going to be the nhl's "golden child") EDIT: On the front page under Tuesday's best, Weber's OT winner is the first video, and datsyuk's is 2nd last... the NHL writers should be fired

time to bring Nyquist back up, and put Tatar, Flip, and Nyquist on a line together!

no, we have enough centers, he is a big body, butt I don't see where they would put him, plus he's only had 1 20 point season, he's basically another Emmerton

You're right cleary is playing sooooo much better than Tatar, keep him in the top 6 cause Tatar has only played 7 games, I think you have a couple screws loose sometimes

what don't you get? He's cleary (pun intended) earned it!

No one CAN take kronners contract, he has a nmc. Plus kronwall isn't bad, he just needs a stay at home guy at his side

he didn't outscore Cleary

good is an overstatement

Well I play soccer the person below me has never seen a meteor shower

that's your mistake then, when pav is on the ice he always has control of the puck, even when the opposing team has it It would be funny if colorodo beat out nashville for a playoff spot because of that goal though lol

Quincey can play worse? I don't want to see that, I thought he was just setting the bar low so he could come out looking like a star after