Euro_Twins

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    2012 Baseball thread

    well, Cabrera finally showed up, gave the tigs a 2-1 lead. First time against the giants they've had the lead. Maybe a few more guys will wake up now
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    We also get to pass up a full season of trading away a first round draft pick!
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    The only reason Bettman has so much power is because he gave himself it. He chose who to put on the board, and created the rule of needing 23 owners to overturn him, after he gathered up his group of 8 owners that will always do what he says they should. They are like a gang of schoolyard bullies, one guy bullying them while the rest of the group cheers him on behind him.
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    It is a lot closer than what bettman is claiming it to be. The problem is Bettman wants to "win" this war to prove he is better than Fehr, Which is why he refuses to meet without preconditions, and why it's his offer or nothing. If Bettman's offer is the one they use, he looks great to the owners and to the fans. If Fehr wins the war he looks great to the players and fans, and Bettman possibly (hopefully) gets canned. It's all just a PR battle, it wouldn't matter if they were $50 apart or $600 million
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    Perpetual line shuffling

    Hmm not bad, but you're missing Miller in there, but I like the overall look of those lines, I would prefer to pair smith with someone who doesn't miss a lot of games like Colaiacovo does, he is young and needs a good reliable pairing to help him grow. That is why I paired him with Ericsson, he has gotten much better over the last couple years, and was better than Stuart and the end of last season. I think he also a lot less injury prone. Just my humble opinion though.
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    Perpetual line shuffling

    It's not about "proving himself", it's about proving he is injury free and capable at playing at the same level he once was. Just because he played all season injured doesn't necessarily mean he will be good again once he is healed. For all we know he may have caused permanent damage to his knee playing on it all year while it was injured. All I am saying is if he proves he is healthy and playing 100% or close to it, he can be on the lineup this year, if I were Babcock and felt he was underperforming in training camp, he would be a healthy scratch, or maybe a 4th liner.
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    Perpetual line shuffling

    that just seems like a recipe for disaster... no Brunner?
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    I am not debating the fact that they are standing firm. Good on them for fighting for what they (the owners) think is right. I am upset about the fact that they refuse to meet with the PA to discuss what they can do to solve all this crap, without any preconditions. Everything should be on the table for negotiations in a lockout, not just what Bettheleaguesmoneyman thinks should be discussed. The PA wants to negotiate currently and resolve the lockout, the evil twins don't. If that changes I will take the owners side. Yes, but what Fehr did was in fact a little bit different, as the owners tabled an extremely unreasonable offer, while the PA was trying lose as little as possible. I tend to agree with Fehr on that one solely because the owners were refusing to budge on their initial proposal, rewording a proposal does not count as a "new" proposal. Yes I know the PA was also trying to keep what they had, but that is what any good unionhead would do, they were not asking for more, just what they were promised (as far as contracts go), but the owners were asking for a huge salary rollback, afgter they committed to the contracts THEY signed.
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    Perpetual line shuffling

    If Cleary can come out and prove he has recovered from his knee injury and play well, I would put him on the third line, problem is we have a lot of talent and no where to put it all. If Cleary plays the way he did last year he is not very useful to us, that is why I did not include him. Cleary a few years back was good, but not for a little while, but hey here is to hoping I am wrong.
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    Difference is the pa wants to be able to negotiate the whole contract, the nhl does not want that by any means. The pa submitted three contract proposals, and the nhl wants them to submit another after they barely even looked those three? I think its the nhl's turn to submit another proposal, but they never want to move off of their stance, there is about 600 million dollars seperating them over 6 years, they should be able to figure this out, meet in the middle. EDIT: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408045
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    The thing is too, Bettman and Daly refuse to negotiate unless the Fehr brothers are nogotiating on their terms, off their proposal they tabled Tuesday and willing to make only minor changes. That is not negotiating, not at all. At least the Fehr brothers have tried to get in a room and hash it out, but the evil twins refuse to listen unless fehr says we want to accept your proposal but negotiate the "make whole" issue. That is why I am against Bettman, he consistently refuses to negotiate, while Daly says there is nothing to discuss. There is plenty to discuss.
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    You fail to take into account that Illitch does not lose money on the wings, the last 5 years or so his "losing" franchise was in the top 5 revenue teams every year.
  13. Exactly my thoughts, this lockout may prove to have some benefits after all.
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    The issue of whether the PA found out about it Friday is neither here, nor there. The main issue is that the owners violated their own rules during the lockout, and went behind the unions back to contact players. All this does is cause more distrust between owners and union reps, and create more of a riff in bargaining. Instead of playing politics they need to sit down for 8 hours(a regular work shift for most working stiffs) and hash out their issues. I just want to watch hockey.
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    A quote for which part? And the thing is, yes tghe owners have all the "power" in a sense, but as long as bettman has 8 owner votes (not sure how phoenix's vote would weigh in here) to back him up, he basically has all the power in the nhl at his fingertip. He can do or say what he wishes when he wishes it, with support of 8 owners.
  16. http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2012/10/21/3534592/weekly-red-wings-roundup-october-21st This site is pretty good for weekly updates on how our beloved wings are doing out there. Hmm, you have a point, although as I have mentioned time and time again, Zetterberg came out in the news after pre-season practice withj Brunner at the Joe and said some very good things about him, and coming from one of the leagues most respected and best forwards, thats a good sign. He is sneaky like Datsyuk, he has speed, and he makes some sick passes, and puts in highlight reel goals. If he can transfer his talent to the smaller ice we will be an amazing team with him. Don't be a wings fan that knocks on every bad move the organization makes, s*** every team signs players they shouldn't. Thats what the ahl is for, but I firmly believe Brunner will rip ice for us in Detroit.
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    Perpetual line shuffling

    First of all, you have some good information here, but I don't like half of it lol. Let me explain why; Bertuzzi is way too slow now to be a top-6 and does not put up the numbers anymore either. Cleary should never be in the top-6 Nyquist played phenominal on a line with Datsyuk last year (they have great chemistry so put the young kid there to learn from the best) Zetterberg has 5 goals and 2 assists in two games in the swiss league, and brunner has assisted on 4 of those goals. They have great chemistry and are tearing it up out there. So my lines would be: Franz~Dats~Nyquist Flip~Z~Brunner Miller~Helm~Sammy Bert~Abby~Tootoo Kronwall~White Ericsson~Smith Quincey~Colaiacovo~Kindl(healthy scratch)
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    I never said this was written in stone, I said it was an interesting article talking about that possibly being the plan
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    [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

    This article is worth a read, I just stumbled upon it and it talks about Bettman possibly knowing he was going to turn down any offer the PA tabled before it even happened, and his whole 50/50 offer was just a pr move and really held no water. http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2012/10/18/nhl-rumor-did-nhl-plan-to-turn-down-nhlpas-offer-from-the-start/
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    Exactly my thought, this is an interesting article I just stumbled upon. It talks about how it may be possible Bettman planned from the getgo to turn down any NHLPA offer before it was even tabled, worth a read. http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2012/10/18/nhl-rumor-did-nhl-plan-to-turn-down-nhlpas-offer-from-the-start/
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    You really think it can get worse? 94-95 lost half a season, 2004-2005 lost a full season, 2012-2013 been locked out a month and a half thus far. I don't think it can get worse
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    Do you still think its nonsense, I could see this end result coming.
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    You bring up a valid point with the WC but it would be simply moved to next year instead. It would also give us a chance to snag some decent free agents over the summer and bolster our D, not that I take issue with our current lineup but it definately could use a bit of help.
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    Sacrifice the full season to guarantee Bettman's removal?

    I would still sacrifice the season to remove Bettman, if it was Bettman gone or a season for 2012-2013, I would choose Bettman being fired
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    Boys are looking good overseas

    I thought Brunner was playing in Grand Rapids to get use to north american rink sizes? Did I miss something where he decided to go back overseas instead?