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If I have to listen to one more person whose never been to Michigan dis Detroit, I'm going to scream. I actually moved here last year over Chicago because I have the opportunity to own a house. Detroit is not why FAs aren't signing. Something is very wrong with this team, be it the team vibe, the coach or management. From what I've heard from insiders (people who actually work with the team) Babcock has lost the locker room. Until we figure out the problem and solve it, there will be rough times ahead. And if the GM can't diagnosis the problem then perhaps he needs a new job.

At the season ticket holder fan event last year, during the autograph signings, my friend told Cleary that it was strange not seeing him in the number 11 jersey. He proceeded to ***** about that for 3 entire minutes, in front of fans and 2 of his team mates. I was tempted to say that if he'd not played games with the contract, he might still be number 11. My friend ushered me away as quickly as possible. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Mr. Cleary has a healthy ego and probably doesn't see GR as an option.

How will you all feel if he plays in Sochi injured and comes back with a medal and a more serious injury that knocks him out of the rest of the season? I remember Stevie Y doing this in 2002 and I ask all of you, is it worth missing a chance at the playoffs?

Cold miserable night. Check. Sold tickets to friend of a friend who calls and says they can't make it. Check. Going to a game that starts in five minutes with an extra ticket. Check. I guess there are worse problems to have.

The best part of the night was walking out of the arena as they played "the night Chicago died" on the sound system. Hee. Loved the fourth line tonight. I'm ready for a youth movement.

I was at the book signing tonight and I'm very glad that my friend went to get our wrist bands and purchase the books at lunch time. They sold out of the book, ran out of the stock from the warehouse and the place was crazy with wing fans. Dmac was very funny, talked to every person in line (we were the 93rd people to get signed) and is probably still signing books in the parking lot. He took pictures with everyone and generally was a very nice guy. He told the guy in front of me that he thinks the alumni game will be fun but he's not put on skates in over a year. He also said that while Drapes has a workout plan for the game, that he and Maltby would probably down some beers and go. I didn't ask him to sign my book "thanks for last night" but I was tempted. I asked him if my friend and I could "oreo" him for a picture and he laughed and said that was discussed in chapter 14. He grabbed the mic at one point and called the next group of numbers and told everyone that their order was ready for pick up. I have some pics if anyone is interested. He looked really good. Felt even better, lol. He's a nice solid hunk of guy. Ahem from a female's perspective, lol.

Yes. It's very good. Not quite as good as Memphis, but very very good and well worth a stop. Go early and before you get hungry because there is always a line. Someone else mentioned Astoria, which I love as well. I would like to say that if you are a cultured kind of group, the Diego Rivera murals at the Detroit Institute of Art are worth the price of entry. But I like art, so your mileage may very. I just moved to Detroit a few months ago but my friend and I move around most parts of town without feeling threatened. We're also females. As someone said, use a GPS and when the lights go away, turn around. This is really NOT the city to get lost in. Make sure you take a lot of quarters if you plan on using the people mover. It's 75 cents a ride and not all of the change machines work. I love Cheli's chili. And there's a pretty nice beer selection as well. They have a shuttle to the Joe as well. Walk down Woodward a bit just for fun. There are actually people in Detroit. I was shocked the first time I walked around. If you like bread bakery stuff, go to Avalon. It's good stuff. Have a great trip!

That is actually a good point. I wouldn't feel guilty if I got kicked out of the game. At this point, I'm going to games out of guilt for the money we spent on season tickets. It's been my dream to have season tickets. I moved to Detroit partly for hockey (and being around people who talk hockey). It pains me that I find games a drain on my life and boring. At home at least I can play with my dog and read magazines. My friend is threatening to bring a book on THursday. I'm working on a "seven deadly Red Wings" poster. I especially like Quincey being sloth. It's just way more effort and art talent than I have. The kids will never grow if you don't throw them into the big rink and let them play.

Last night the people sitting behind us started chanting "Bring Back Cheli". I figured it made sense. If you want old and slow, he's got that. But he actually has some hockey awareness that most of your current Dman lack. My sign read "I show up for every game, you should too" but we were discouraged from taking it to the ice level during warm up.

I really have to wonder what happens when guys like Nyquist become a RF or worse an UFA. Why the heck would he tolerate a management team that has kept him in GR way longer than he deserved? I would live in fear that I'd be sent down (or up or over or put on waivers) because management was so stupid they continued to sign players that were too old or not needed. We were all convinced this was Nyquists year and there he sits in GR. The Wings management need to be very careful about who they screw over today because people aren't taking the hometown discount and they aren't going to stay around when you've dicked them over for years.

Hum...seemed like Holland wasn't complaining about shoot outs when he had goalies like Hasek that tended to eat shooters for breakfast. Howard won't be our starting goalie in three years let alone five. Petr will get the job sooner rather than later. I'm not sure how Jimmy can stop a puck in traffic with ten bodies in front of him, holding off deflections and rebounds but he can't stop a single guy moving in straight at him? I had a friend at practice this morning and he said very few wings were on the ice. Hum... y'all might want to try practicing. It might not make you perfect but it might stop you from sucking. I have pics he took of the locker room if anyone wants to see them. And of the bench. That bench looks mighty hard. Maybe Cleary and Sammy could try riding it?? I've been to every home game this year and it's just getting harder and harder to walk to the Joe. Heck, I offered to help someone pack to get out of it tonight. I'm tired of Babcock and his "The mule was great, after hybernating all season, he poked his head out of his den, scored twice and then saw his shadow and went back in. We'll see him next year for another two goals". I'm tired of his bs. And I can't understand how Quincey has a job in the NHL. Does anyone know how many of the goals he's been on the ice for?

I think when I shelled out $$$ for tickets and have to sit through loss after loss, I'm at least entitled to a little complaining. I love the team but it's not exactly fun sitting at the Joe watching them lose in over time or regular time to teams like Dallas. And I think we're seeing a pretty significant pattern that's not exactly a snap judgement.

The sad thing is that I have to go see the game tonight knowing that Cleary is in. Why not hit me up with that info when I'm stuck in my seat at the Joe? Going to games has become an obligation lately. Especially since I can't remember the last time they won a game at home. I don't know whose blame (Coach or GM) so I'll stick with blaming Quincey.

Does anyone know what channel the game is on in Detroit (comcast). I'm still trying to get used to the new cable system. I can only find a regular def version and not a HD one. Thanks!

Sending good thoughts to him and his family for a speedy recovery!

Oh boy. So, I'm a first time season ticket holder who basically moved to MI for a great job and the Wings. I'm thrilled that I get to see most of the games and experience how much fun the Joe can be in person. But after two months these are my biggest complaints: 1) "f*** you, Howard." That was screamed by the large man who rented the seats behind me. I know he rented them because the season ticket holders never show up, which means I get to put up with a very entertaining group of drunks most nights. This man pretty much pummeled his knees into my back for the night, was upset that I wouldn't lean over to the row in front of me and steal him some extra purple towels (the "gift" for breast cancer awareness), and called me a ***** for looking at his wife, who leaned over the seat next to me, pretty much had her ass sticking up in my face and reached under the seat to get the towel that slipped into the crevice. And all this was during the warm up while they were stone cold sober. 2) Seat Poachers. My friend and co ticket holder is overseas for work. Nobody wants a single ticket as a freebie (they want both seats, go figure) so I had an empty seat next to me. But before the game started, this guy slides in and informs me that his friend is in the seat on the other side of my friend's seat and his ticket is way up at top, so he'll move when my friend shows up. Now I have a huge guy behind me, a sloth/stoner poacher next to me and another huge guy to the other side. It would have been nice to tell the guy to move because I technically have both seats, I possess two tickets and I want a space to put my coat. But I didn't know what the etiquette for such circumstances was and I hate being intolerant to a hockey fan, so I sat smushed. 3) "Who designed these seats, an anorexic model?" followed by "the AA center has cup holders and Wifi" (and the fact that you can't see the ice from 80% of seats is negated by cup holders?). I'm not a skinny person. But when I say that I mean that I'm a size 10 who wishes I was a size 8. It's interesting to listen to the people behind me (the towel stealers) complain about the seat sizes when they are huge people, who probably purchased close to 100 dollars in food. At the Joe. I'm all for having a good time but after eating dinner at the Joe for 4 preseason games in six days, I learned the value of not spending 5.50 for a chili dog. And I'm sure my cholesterol levels appreciate that awareness. The man patiently explained to the woman that the seat sizes were why we were getting a new stadium because the Joe was built in the 1970s when people weren't so fat. I'm not sure the new stadium has enough rows for the seat sizes some of these people need. It also doesn't help when people bring a ton of crap to the Joe. Huge purses, giant coats... I can't complain about the AA comment too much because my co ticket holder is from Dallas and that's enough punishment for any hockey fan. 4) Some of the elitism of season ticket holders. After showing up for three preseason games, the person next to me asked if I was a season ticket holder. I confirmed that and I was excited about the season. She looked confused and asked me why I had printed out tickets and not the real ones. I guess because I normally can't find my keys (or my pretty tickets) but I always have the ability to print off a ticket in a few seconds. She said that people would think I was a "renter" because I had paper tickets. It's like the high school lunch room hierarchy all over again. Except that who really cares? I've always traveled to see the Wings play and I've usually "rented" tickets from someone. Doesn't mean I was a bad fan, just one that didn't/couldn't have season tickets. 5) And the worst thing about going to a game, for me, is watching Dats and Z skate off the line while the national anthem is being sung. It's disrespectful and something I never saw on the broadcast at home. And seeing the young skater do the same thing, following Pavel's lead just makes me sad. Let's teach everyone that it's cool to skate while someone is singing the anthem. Maybe Karen could speed it up a bit, because they are so anxious to start skating before the game and we can't get them to skate DURING the game. So those are my complaints. But I'm still thrilled to be at games. I just wished people used some common sense.

Hello! Long time reader, first time poster. I am cautious about the new arena because the firm hired to design a new arena is the same one used for the American Airlines arena in Dallas. And if you've been there, you can understand my concern. The top tier seats need TVs to see what's going on at the ice. The mid tier seats are decent but not for the money. The only way you can see anything on the ice in Dallas is to be sitting in the best seats of the lower section. I fear a new arena will dramatically raise ticket prices and result in bad sight lines.