DickieDunn

It might not have happened much. I do know for a fact that he spent at least a few hours in Kent County jail for drunk and disorderly when he was a Griffin. He got kicked out of a bar, wanted to go back in for his coat, then told the police "you can't arrest me, I Hudler, I hockey player."

I'd prefer Crosby crying his eyes out because he doesn't have a medal.

Everyone complaining about the refs needs to stop. The US was up 2 with under 3 minutes left. They lost because they couldn't hold a lead. Period.

Don't question it, just enjoy it

If ****** Canoe McGuire says "long range bombers" one more time I'm going to track him down and beat him to death with his own severed arm.

they used separate rooms, unfortunately.

I don't understand that rule. There were a few women in the league I used to play in, and they were tougher than a lot of the guys.

The main issue with Yakupov is his lack of interest in playing anything that resembles a complete game. He doesn't want to backcheck, forecheck, skate hard, go to the corners, hit, or do anything other than score goals. He's basically a more talented Leino. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/13/yakupov-not-happy-about-being-a-healthy-scratch/

That, and the insistence that the US and Canada are absolutely the best seems kind of a North-American-centric view of things. Last I looked, Sweden had some pretty damn good players on their team.

Clarkson scored what he did by a combination of luck and the Devils PP strategy being "bank the puck in off Clarkson." He does nothing to create offense, isn't that great of a skater, and plays a style that doesn't lend itself to a long career. Even if he had 2 or 3 good years, that's a horrendously bad contract.

I don't know which is better

If I say "you're an idiot," that's written as a fact, not an opinion. Does it make it true? Helene St. Lame is one of the worst "reporters" out there.

So an unsupported post, possibly made tongue in cheek, makes it a "fact" that HOlland thinks Ryan is lazy. Franzen scores 27 or 28 goals a season. That's pretty good.

Except the Wings were trying to trade for him. But don't let the truth get in the way of your made up "facts."

I didn't hear him saying anything about Ryan after the playoffs last year, but I know he said it in connection to Ryan not being on the Olympic team. There was plenty of rumors going around that the Wings were after Ryan, but it would have been hard to beat the package Ottawa gave up. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/report-flyers-penguins-red-wings-senators-among-teams-after-bobby-ryan/

Burke said it.

I like the team, I'm just not sure I LIKE like the team, and I really question whether or not I love the team.

It would have been extremely out of character for Holland to say something so blatantly negative about a player, except in extreme circumstances. I don't even remember a lot of public negativity about Krupp coming from Holland. I don't believe for a second he said Ryan was lazy. The only "facts" that DeGra55 spews are ones taken out of context, and he runs away from anything that doesn't support his flawed arguments. He sounds just like a politician.

They have 3 top 4 d-men. Their top goal scorer has 16 goals and they're 19th in goals scored because all of their scorers have played fewer than 50 of their 58 potential games, and only Tatar has played in more than 80% of the possible games.

There's also the fact that teams won't want Pulk as a main part of a trade package for a good player. They'll want Tatsr and Nyquist.

Short of "trade the guys we don't want for good players" there aren't many decent moves available. Any trade would most likely require an over payment from what another team is willing to give up in order to make up for the other team taking back Quincey or Samuelsson to balance the salary. That said, if they can manage to swing a trade for a d-man as good or better than Ericsson, I think that's enough to put the team over the top, assuming they're relatively healthy for the playoffs. Once the cap doesn't apply they can call up whatever kids they want. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Nyquist-Weiss-Franzen Tatar-Helm-Alfredsson Miller-Sheahan-Andersson/Glendening Kronwall-Ericsson New guy-Dekeyser Smith-whoever The 6th D spot can be Quincey, Kindl, Lashoff, or another trade. If Franzen is having head issues, slot Jurco into the lineup.

Franzen's defense is better than Vanek's by a big step, and Vanek's offense isn't that far ahead for Franzen's. Franzen has spent just as much time with Filppula and other 2nd line caliber players as he has with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, and has been on the 2nd PP unit at times.Vanek plays more minutes and not only is he always on the first PP unit, he's their go to guy instead of just one of them.

The Wings' leading goal scorer has 16 because all of their goal scorers have missed significant time with the exception of Tatar, not because of a lack of talent. What a player did 6 years ago is irrelevant. The last 3 years is a far better gauge of what a player will do the following year. The last full NHL season, Franzen had 29G, 56 pts, and was in a 3 way tie for the +/- lead on the team. Vanek had 26G, 61 pts, and was near the bottom of his team's +/- stat. Vanek is used because he's the top pending free agent, and if you're going to say "Vanek type" you might as well use the original guy. If you want to go with Moulson or someone else, go ahead. The comparison between him and Franzen will still be the same. It an absolute FACT that Johan Franzen is a capable goal scorer. It is an absolute FACT that there is little difference between 28 or 29 goals and 30 goals. If you're really serious about how Franzen's goals are "gifts" then you need to pay more attention.

Which only helps for as long as they're not on IR. Unless they know 100% that they're done for the season, it would be stupid to add any salary.