DickieDunn

According to Custance Holland is looking for a young D and AA is on the block. Of course it might just be Holland's way of saying I tried. Assuming he does make a move and trade a young forward, I'd look to trade them in this order: Svechnikov, because he hasn't shown what he can do in the NHL yet. AA, he's fast and dynamic but has a higher chance of not being a stud compared to the others. Mantha, because he's big and looks like a perinnieal 25-30 goal guy. Larkin, a potential#1 center who takes care of things on both ends. This doesn't mean I dislike any or don't believe they all have potential, but it takes assets to get assets, and we NEED a high end D. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

guys like AA don't get sponsorship deals

Only a handful of elite level players come close to 20 minute a night, and just playing more, against better players, doesn't always lead to significantly more scoring. He should be around 15 minutes a night on a scoring line. Both a 25 minute drive from where you live now.

he plays there for $3 mil for a year, Holland either clears cap space from him next year or trades him, or he plays another year or two for similar money. He's still ahead by over a million dollars. 2 years at $1.9 Mil,+ $2.8 (at a guess) the following year=$6.6 mil 1 year in Russia +2 years at $2.5 mil in the NHL=$8 mil 2 years in Russia at $3 mil/year+ 1 year at $2.8 mil=$8.8 mil 3 years in Russia at $3 mil a year-$9 mil. This is, of course, assuming he does well there and is able to get a contract around $2.8 mil when he comes back. There is no way he's worse off playing a year in Russia assuming he plays well.

$1.1 million more isn't a lot more? If you have 2 job offers for the same position, one pays $40k a year and the other pays $60k a year, would you take the lower offer because $20k "isn't that much less?"

You suck-God, 2017 There will be roster spots, but they'd have to take a minimum salary deal after Holland clears cap space.

$3 mil is still a lot more than $1.9 mil. He hasn't gotten an offer sheet because the GMs seem to have a gentleman's agreement not to give them out in most cases. Occasionally a star like Weber gets one, but that's about it.

No, he'd rather give the money to aging grinders who have zero chance at being worth their cap hit at the end of their deals the 2 year deal at $1.9 mil is recent according to reports. Something in the $2-$2.5 mil/year range what AA was probably going to get all along. Holland should have just skipped the obviously too low $1.25 a year deal and offered something fair. And if he had to overpay a bit now, so what? I'd rather have a young guy with potential making a little too much than a guy who has already hit his peak and will only decline getting that money. Holland has it backwards though, pay your grinders and support players who are fairly easy to replace, try to nickel and dime your young talent.

If Holland hadn't lowballed him to begin with, and that original one year offer was an insult, AA might have signed for $2.2 mil for 2 years before he even got a KHL offer. If he went in looking for $3 mil a year from the start, that would be a bad deal. As much as I hate losing him, I wouldn't have given him that much either.

$3 mil tax free is a hell of a lot of money. Between state, federal, medicare, social security, etc, it adds up quick. I don't blame him for listening. RE:Holland and Ilitch. I've said it before, as long as the Wings are selling tickets and merchandise I don't think ownership will make a change in the front office. At most they'll have Holland take the president job, promote from within, and Holland will "advise" the new GM, so it will remain status quo.

Datsyuk was better when he was in the lineup, but Zetterberg has stayed more or less healthy lately. I'd rather have the guy who's going to be in the lineup most nights.

You're right to a point. Poor coaching and sub par scouting, both amateur and professional, have also been issues, but Holland is the one in charge of making those staffing decisions, so it ultimately falls on him.

AA should get roughly $2 mil a year on a 2 year deal right now, a little more on a 3 year deal. i'd be more than fine with him at $2.5 mil, because he's likely to outperform that. You should be willing to overpay guys who are projecting up, thinking he'll be overpaid now, but the last year or two of the deal he'll be good value. if you think a player might be a bad value at the end of the deal, he should be a higher end player (Zetterberg, Kronwall pre-injury) who you can't afford to lose. You don't overpay grinders approaching their 30th birthday and who will likely trend down, and who are only arguably worth what they make now but are almost guaranteed to be overpaid by quite a bit at the end of the deal.

Is that 1546 individual members on-line, or does that count multiple visits? And how many were sock puppet accounts?

Booth getting a PTO is basically insurance in case they have some injuries in camp and need a warm body.

Agent said he thinks it should be decided "within the week" a few days ago. I haven't heard anything since. I imagine the likelihood of a year or three in the KHL is getting more likely since I don't see Holland budging too much. Grinder wants money? Back up the truck. Talented young player wants money? F--k him. I'd like to know what the offers are. If they're $1.5 mil or so, I'd say f--k off too. If they're $2 mil+, AA should sign. But, these guys have fairly short careers. Even the guys who stay healthy and are gym rats are generally done by 40. Gotta make money when you can. If the KHL is willing to give him $4 mil a year and it's tax free, it'd be hard to turn that down.

he longer he was coached by Blash the worse he played

Lambert is a blithering idiot who's blog posts consist of 50% "Detroit is a crappy city" jokes most of the time.

I call him Capt. Cut-n-paste for a reason No he isn't Butcher signed with NJ, and no he isn't Booth sucks more than Sheahan, and Sheahan made himself difficult to trade

$3 mil is too much, as much as I like AA. $2.25 give or take, anything over $2.5 is bad.

for cap space

Nyquist and Tatar aren't even close to the top of the list of problems the Wings have. I'm not sure why so many people complain about them. Is it just because people thought they were going to be studs, and now that they're not, people think they suck? Or is it some misplaced idea that you can get guys who can consistently score in the 45 point range for $3 mil a year?

Tatar is a good player and he's in his prime.

um, no. Team asks the player to waive it. If they do, they get traded. If not, they don't/ There's no buying them out