DickieDunn

Tavares is a guy who can drive a team. That's invaluable. Unless the price is a younger stud like McDavid, you pay what it takes.

If they do a relatively quick turnaround in 3 years he'll be 29. Since when is that past his prime? Sent by my minions via telepathy

Competed for what? They were bad almost the entire year. Sent by my minions via telepathy

Like I said before, Chris appears to be content to let things go however they go as long as people buy tickets and merchandise, just like WC Ford did for decades for the Lions

lets look at it from a Stats view 2016--------Tats 25-21-46 TOI 17.16Player Goals Assist PTS $$$$$$$ TOINick Foligno - 26 25 51 5.5mil 18.25Marian Hossa - 26 19 45 5.25mil 16.51Kyle Palmier - 26 27 53 4.65mil 17.20Brayden Schenn - 25 27 52 5.125mil 17.48Logan Couture - 25 27 52 6.0mil 17.36Justin Williams - 24 24 48 4.5mil 15.28Brandon Saad - 24 29 53 6.0mil 17.01

It is a risk, but most of the time the player ends up better off holding out for a longer deal Sent by my minions via telepathy

Arbitration looks at recent deals for comparable players at the same position. I'd be shocked if Tatar got less than $5 mil and I will expect closer to $5.5, which will put the team in a bad spot thanks to Holland handing out bad contracts Sent by my minions via telepathy

Decent depth signing. If I were him I'd be thinking about Europe though Sent by my minions via telepathy

that was my impression too

look at the comparable scorers from the last 2 years, $5.3 is pretty close to the mid point

that's my fear too

Maybe he is, but I'd be surprised. Of course Holland has the team's cap so screwed up he couldn't take Tavares even if Snow would do that.

Give Glendening $1 mil like he should be getting and tell Helm to take $3.2-ish or let him walk and replace him with a cheaper guy and signing Tatar is a non-issue. It all goes back to Holland's mismanagement and thinking he has to spend money just because he has it the last few years.

I have high hopes for him, but goalies are a total crap shoot

If trading for Tavares puts a team over the top and they win the Cup, it'll be worth overpaying for him even if he walks. Fixed it

Holland can't offer him that much without making another move, which he won't because of all the bloated deals he handed out. If Tatar really only wants $5.3, it should be a no brainer to sign him. Of course, if that's the arbitration offer Holland is throwing out, it's probably lower than what he offered as the contract, at least I would hope.

If Blashidiot doesn't change his approach they might end up with the best odds in the lottery

Yeah, what Dabura said. Increasing ice time by 30% doesn't always, or even usually, lead to a 30% scoring increase because the increased ice time is usually against better competition. Nobody knows what younger players, even guys who have played in the NHL and have shown promise, are going to do long term. They might get injured, or have off ice issues, or have some fatal flaw in their game that isn't evident in a small sample size. You can't say "well, so in so is going to be better than what we have so we can lose this productive player." The cap issues they're having now are a direct result of signing a bunch of guys to deals that are "maybe $500k or a million too much, but it's not THAT bad of an over payment, so it should be alright." Which is what I said every time a deal like that was handed out, it all adds up and it will cause an issue eventually. Glendening is making $800k too much, Abdelkader about $500k (unless he took less term, then his current hit is more palatable), Helm is $500k too much. That's more than enough between them to avoid the cap issues. Signing vets who aren't going to put the team over the top is the other issue. They have $5.25 mil going to a 2nd line center that helped them to one of the worst records in the conference, and now $3.17 mil going to a defenseman who is going to be on the top pair by default but is probably a 2nd pair D on a good team. We already had 2 of those guys in Dekeyser and Green. This isn't a corporate budget where if you don't spend your allotment this year the bean counters will decide you don't need that much next year and will chop your budget. They don't have to spend it just because they can.

He's colluding with Russia to ruin Mrazek's career Sent by my minions via telepathy

He's way worse than Nielsen Sent by my minions via telepathy

They didn't "let" him walk, he had no desire to come back. Sent by my minions via telepathy

Consistent 30 goal guys get a lot more than $5 mil. Look what Parise got, although that was in part to and Suter Sent by my minions via telepathy

Hope so. I figure it's a coin flip right now. Sent by my minions via telepathy

$6il is too much, and I've heard he wants $5 mil for 7 years and the term is the issue and I've heard the sticking point is he wants $6 mil or more. Sent by my minions via telepathy

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2017/07/red_wings_tomas_tatar_says_rel.html#incart_river_index Kenny Holland got me and my agent and excellent relationship," Tatar said in a roughly translated story. "Detroit gave me a chance to start in the NHL. I hope I can (wear a Red Wings) jersey continued and enhanced. Detroit is a great organization full of great people. feel better about him now kickazz?