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Zetterberg Larkin Nyquist Vanek Nielsen Tatar Helm Sheahan Abdelkader Miller Glendening Those are more or less locks to be regulars. Frk is this year's Pulk. Big AHL numbers, lacks things he needs to be a good NHL player, but will probably start with the team. Jurco probably gets the other 4th line spot, square peg in the round hole. Ott probably makes the team. That's the 14 forwards. Holland will stammer about how Mantha, AA, and maybe a couple other guys are good enough but won't play a top nine role because of numbers and trading is hard, like, really REALLY hard and you have to give up a good player to get anything of value back and he won't do that, so they'll be riding the bus in GR. The defense will be a fuster cluck, Jensen will be waived to much crying and clear, whoever loses out of Marchenko, XO, and Sproul will get claimed. A rumor will leak out that whoever gets lost on waivers threatened to go to Europe instead of GR and fans will cry about him for a year until everyone figures out he's nothing special anyway.

Wasn't Kronwall like 150 when he was drafted?

Jurco's problem is Blashcock pounding a square peg into a round hole. He's a skilled player being told to play like a plug.

Rob Ray says hello

Datsyuk yes, Fedorov and Zetterberg probably Osgood no

He doesn't have enough offensive ability to be a good third line center, much less the best.

AA and Mantha will be in GR

There were people who thought Almquist was going to be really good.

Kindl was a salary dump, the other guys were never going to play a game. If Vanek ends up as the 15th forward and someone will give up a seventh, then yes. If he's contributing at all, he won't, because Kenny the Hoarder values depth over all else.

Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore, Toe Blake, Gordie Howe!!!

I'd be surprised if either Hickets or Sarijaarvi play 50 games in the NHL. Small defensemen almost never make it. For every Krug there are dozens of Almquists

People think Ken Holland will trade a vet at the deadline?

And yet people say X is better than Y because... and post nothing but advanced stats with no context as their proof.

Laws and rules are for peasants, not the elite. This still makese want to vomit.

They can agree to any deal the cba allows. Arbitration doesn't preclude them from agreeing to a long term deal before the hearing. If it actually gets to the hearing, then it will be a one year deal, but I doubt that happens. Other than Hunter, who did it so he'd be coming back to Detroit after his KHL stint, I think Shepherd was the last Wings player to actually get to the hearing without being signed before then.

The problem with advanced stats is they don't always take into account the sheltered minutes some people play.

That just means he'll get paid more to be in GR

Yes, because actually judging them by what you see is for old geezers who think dial up Internet is advanced technology.

That's a blatant lie. Unless Ott is going to be sent down there isn't room.

Ott is useless. Threw as many hits a game as Miller last year and is worse in every other aspect. If it's worse then not by much.

Miller isn't blocking anyone from a scoring line, Helm, Vanek, and Nielsen are.

So move players around. Also, players do improve from one year to the next. Allowing them to actually play helps them improve. And a 32 year old second line center will put them over the top?

Zetterberg Larkin Nyquist Tatar AA Vanek Martha Sheahan Abdelkader Miller Glendening Jurco/rookie Zetterberg Larkin Nyquist Tatar Nielsen Vanek Helm Sheahan Abdelkader Miller Glendening Ott/Jurco Group one isn't any worse and might even be better, plus it gives players who will be needed soon to play. Group 2 isn't a contender, it just keeps young players out of the lineup

Sawchuk held a ton of records until Broduer and Roy came around, easily the best goalie to ever play in Detroit.

Any list of all time best Wings that doesn't have both Howe and Sawchuk on it are invalid. Howe Lidstrom Yzerman Sawchuk Multi-way tie for 5 between Fedorov, Lindsay, Abel, Syd Howe, Red Kelly, and a few others.