Jonas Mahonas

I saw the same thing. I saw a 20 year old that needed to spend the 4 months of offseason weightlifting with a strength coach and skating with a skating coach, but decided to spank off in Sweden and play PS5 all summer. Then all the Rslurs on here say he's having a "sophmore slump". No, he's an unprofessional p.o.s. with zero ambition. One of Yzerman's biggest weaknesses is his lack of leadership on this team. The sissy boy Euros do not give a sh!t about Detroit. They just play for money and selfies right now. It's sad. Larkin isn't the guy to lead this team, and Mo Seider is a jerk off too. I was thinking Lidstrom would be teaching these guys about getting to perfect fitness amongst other things, but guess he's not the "perfect" executive. He's the sh!tbag what the hell does he do anyway executive it turns out. I seriously am liking Europeans, and especially Scandonavians, A LOT less. They're all so testosterone insufficient.

Im more of a fan of rewarding the guys that play great both ways (Rasmussen) than handing out big money to guys that hurt us 5 on 5 (Debrincat, Raymond). If Debrincat carried a cost of 4 mil per, I'd say it would be worth the risk to take on his MINUS 31 5on5 play. But he's going to cost Larkin type money, so "No, Thanks." Tarasenko and O'Reilly are better options for us.

Phoenix has to move

Yah, we need more

I still like Raymond. But he does need work.

I feel like youve soured on him

So it sounds like we've soured on Lucas Raymond. I feel like we were all seeing him as our top line RW a year ago, but some people dont feel the same way now.

We cant afford to become the maple leafs

This guy doesnt play defense. If we take him on, it will be a mistake.

If we give up and 1sts or former 1sts, I wont be happy.

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woh! nice reputation, Dabura!

Anything over 5 per is a big pass. 5 x 5, and Im not gonna cry about it.

I wouldnt touch this guy if I was Steve. He's Erik Karlsson at F. Minuses galore fore the sake of his statline.

minus 31. too non defensive.

Yah, his style revolved around players being extremely sound defensively and playing up and sown the ice as a unit. And that's what a team like 2003 Anaheim had to play like due to a lack of overall skill level. But the Red Wings were one of the most skilled teams in the league when Babcock had them. When you have guys that can beat defenseman 1 on 1 (Dats, Zetts, Franzen, Nyquist, Tatar, etc), it's detrimental not to stretch the ice and make the other team keep their forwards at bay. When both teams are playing so conservative, then you're just down to a coinflip on who gets the breaks. And we lost that flip in 2009. In hindsight, that was a bad M.O. considering our team was a lot older than Pittsburgh's.

I liked Babcock with the Wings, tbh. Our team conducted themselves well on and off the ice with him. I do agree with you that a monkey could have won a cup with the Wings between '06 and '10 tho. We were loaded.

Yah, he earned his stripes that playoffs. Babs has a great playoff record too. I think he just needs to learn how to be forceful and tough without being offensive and condescending. Im excited to see how the panzy blue jacket players react.

This is why I want to focus on Willander and Reinbacher in the draft. We are not going to get a Raymond at #9. We COULD end up getting a Seider Light.

Kipwinger's reputation is almost 20 times yours. Woh!

There's a big difference between a coach the players hate because he makes them work harder than they want to/do things they dont want to and a coach the players hate because he condescends to them and demeans/embarrasses them in front of others. Bowman had a big ego, but he backed it up with a string of coaching success like no other. Babcock has a big ego, but he has had only moderate success considering the talent of his teams. Now we'll see how Babs does with a bottom feeder. Bowman coached the Blues into a cup final from the Bottom. Lets see what Babcock can do with the Blue Jackets.

sweet. That comeback reminded me of Mike striking out in the 10th frame to break 200.

fml

I like rereading his rslurred comments in the Ovi thread. What a turd.

He's OUR pud, at least!