Jonas Mahonas

One thing you say here is something a lot of LGW posters fail to grasp = pay. Seems like a lot of people dont understand that we cant have 6.5 mil per season wingers on EVERY line. We need players that make 1.5-2.5 million in the bottom 6 that can play top 6 when injuries hit. And we need guys that are happy to do that. So far, Zadina hasnt put any pressure on anyone to make him a better player other than hisself. I see absolutely zero reason to get rid of a guy like that unless there are better options. With Soderblom, Niederbach, Berggren, and Mazur coming on, we could have better options soon.

Whats you having to badmouth Zadina have to do with Zadina?

10-4. Im not as down on him as you are. Will be interesting how you evaluate Berggren and his 16 pts this season.

ha ha ha

If he has 35 pts in 55 games, you trade him?

I agree. I think this team is going to look magnificent in 2 years. I dont see a weakness with the exception of a superstar center and a superstar winger. We need a couple of our draft picks to blossom. Perhaps Kasper and Soderblom will.

problem with Zadina is that he doesnt drive offense in either end. He doesnt cause turnovers / create take aways - he plays defense but only the type where he skates back and TRIES to get in the way. This isnt effective. He's not aggressive or tenacious on defense. Being those doesnt mean you have to be a tough guy. It means you have to have a willpower to get the puck from the opposition at all costs and not stop driving your legs and going after the puck until you do. Zadina just skates until he is in the defensive zone and coasts to a position where he thinks he's going to stop a pass. And in the offensive zone, the same is true. Zadina does not drive creativity. He skates until he hits the blue line and then coasts to a position where he thinks he can accept a pass to shoot. That might be acceptable if he had a high finishing rate like Nyquist. But his finishing rate is terrible. The best thing the team could have done is to room Zadina with Larkin and have him immitate Larkin's every move for 2 years. Larkin plays the exact opposite style of hockey that Zadina does. Does Larkins speed help? Yah. But it can bed done with good speed instead of exceptional speed, as well. Zetterberg is a good example of that. Zadina has too good of a frame, time in the organization, NHL experience, and willingness to help the club to just discard right now. But if he comes out of the 22-23 season with 8 goals and 15 pts, then Detroit needs to make way for some of their peospects (Soderblom, Dower-Nielsen, Niederbach, Berggren, Mazur, Kasper, etc.). #11 has til mid February to put up 30 pts, imo. He will be trade bait if he stagnates again.

10-4. One more year, then call it a sunk cost and dump his ass.

Wow. I hope this kid keeps rolling.

Ahhhhh, ok. Yah, I definiyely believe the SHL is 2nd best to the NHL, with the AHL a close 3rd. The US Dev program has top notch talent. After that, the Canadian Junior leagues are a real crapshoot. Veleno was granted exceptional status in the Q and fell from top 5 pick to grinding out a bottom 6 career. Im in agreement with you here.

Yah, his groin and hip were shot. I cant believe they didnt catch that in a physical. Team's physician cost the Ilitch's 24.5 mil.

We will have to wait to see. The lineups of Colorado, Tampa Bay, and Pittsburg, Washington, Chicago. and LA (last 10 years of cup champions) have had exactly TWO Swedes (Backstrom and Hedman). I think it's a bit early to start proclaiming Sweden the talent factory.

Mazur!!!!

Weiss

Foderev would have been the first Russian captain.