Jonas Mahonas

Yah, good call. I dont trust college crushing in general, but roll of the dice has to hqve one of them pan out...

To answer your points: 1) I never said this 2) You DO. You are assuming all of our players are going to be healthy all 82 games. Vrana goes down? Bertuzzi goes down? etc. Enter Kyle Kriscuolo. Come on, dude. Youre telling me you want Kyle Kriscuolo filling in for Vrana? Youre just lost if youre on the "Kyle Kriscuolo and Mitch Stephens are better assets" train. Glad Yzerman and Blash arent. 3) Ive watched them both at AHL and NHL levels. You will see what happens to Berggren next year when he cracks the lineup. His high flying offensive dynamo days will grind to a halt just like Zadinas. Power play time? You think they are going to put him in front of Larkin, Suter, Bertuzzi, Raymond, Rasmussen, Zadina, Veleno? He will be lucky to get 45 seconds of pp time every 5 games next year. PK and 3rd/4th line duties for the kid as he learns "the Red Wings Way". You Zadina haters act like every guy is Lucas Raymond and then forgets how to play hockey. Every guy is different and needs to learn how to be effective in the NHL. That doesnt translate to 8 wingers that all score 70 pts, no matter how bad you want that.

the thing about whipping: - its ok if you have a logical alternative solution to what you think is a problem but when, the conversation is: Trade Zadina Replace him with XYZ and XYZ makes the team worse (older, slower, less potential, etc), then you just fail. The truth - Zadina isnt performing how he is expected to perform. Also the truth - he is 22 years old ATT - We currently do not have 8 wings in the organization better than him ATT - He's very affordable If we get Forsberg, Zadina should never see our top 6 again. And thats ok. I love the 3rd line of Berggren-Veleno-Zadina. Thats a big if tho. And Berggren plays a VERY similar game to Zadina. He might have a tough time adjusting as well. point is - be patient. If Zadina cant find it, and theres someone better waiting, then next man up. Right now, there arent better options.

you spend too much time on this man. creepy

start a thread!

Leddy makes me miss Lebda

This. Nyquist at 22 had 18 games and 7 pts under his belt. We gave him top 6 minutes with a hall of fame center every year and allowed him to get his pay up to 5.5 mil per. Zadina has been playing with rejects from other teams for the start of his career and playing shyte minutes. Zadina haters just cant get over that we are not going to have 8 Lucas Raymonds around our 4 centers. For some reason, the round peg in the round hole ia met with "it HAS to go through the square hole, or im bashing him". Get over it already. There are so many players in our organization to whip before Zadina.

Dont worry. You will have plenty of time to whip him too next year.

3 oscars so far?

not enough assets to get Chychrun. Raymond+Edvinsson+Zadina+Suter+Rasmussen+Lindstrom+2022 1st+2023 1st. That will probably be Yzerman's offer. Larkin-Stephens-Bertuzzi Berggren-Veleno-Hirose Stephens-Gagner-Smith Fabbri-Stephens-Vrana Osterle-Chychrun Seider-Osterle Hronek-Lashoff Probably roll like that after the trade.

he will get 80+ next season

like your takes!

did u like the 3rd line last nt?

I am literally watching all of the games again because of Seider. Youre gonna be really excited when they put him with a good LHD.

Not disagreeing with you that Cholowski is not great. I am disagreeing with you that Dekeyser is better.

They actually play very similar games with the puck. Seider is a bit more physical and has a better reach, which allows him to be a 1/2 step slower. Lidstrom had the extra 1/2 step and better edge work, allowing him to poke check and position himself more effectively. Both guys are great alomg the boards. Seider wants to give you bruises while he embarrasses you, while Lidstrom just wanted to take your entire soul. But this is how it starts. You were in diapers in 1991, blueadams, so you probably think Lidstrom was an added piece to an all star team. But thats false. Lidstrom allowed other pieces to be effective adds. And you will see that with Mo too.

Cause our left handed D is so stacked this year...

Ethan Hawke is the actor who was suppoaed to fail in Hollywood but somehow slipped through the cracks. And everyone was like "ok".

like

asoderblom is 6'9" now. WTF!

Dekeyser/Leddy

And how can anyone who has been watching the games not spot Dekeyser/Leddy as the 2 biggest problems? I dont understand why people cant see that having 2 LD in our top 4 that cant play defense causes almost all of our issues.

Svechnikov SUCKED. PERIOD.

I want Seider's brother. Only 5'11", but just as savvy.

Abby is based.