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To Mike Hart's defense he said that because State players were saying it before the game (I think it was Culcrick). Thats why you do your talking on the field so you can yapp your trap after.

Yeah it was about hiding because he was trying to prove he isn't hiding, and won't be no matter what the results are. It was a ridiculous sign, but he was just having some fun with me. He's a good guy! I will be here no matter what, and if we pull the stunner I will not say 'same ol Spartans', because I don't believe that this year. Things could get very interesting this weekend. Reports are predicting RAIN!!!

Melrose would approve!! It's kind of a big deal But you're right I guess it's time to start the U-M, or MSU jokes now! BTW my next door neighbor is a 56 year old MSU alum. I'm walking in my house last night, and there is a message on my door. It said "Watch out I am OSAMA BIN SPARTAN!!!". WTF does that mean?!?!?!?!

Wall Mart Buckeyes???

Same thing happened to Kampher, U-M hockey player. I posted it in the football forum. Wish both hockey players the best.

Whether it's his retiring, and then coming back saga, telling Tony Romo to play hurt (and never telling Rogers do to the same), or this. He is really pissing me off this year. Shouldn't he be learning his new NYJ playbook since he apparently did this right after he joined the Jets? I apologize to Packer487 in advance for my comments

I'm sure most read about the dumbass U-M football player who beat up U-M's key hockey player in Steve Kampfer. Now I just read AJ Sturges, a MSU hockey player is in the hospital for what appears to be being beat up by MSU football players. Why the hate on the hockey players?! What are the chances both schools have almost identical crime cases in one week? I wish both well with a speedy recovery. Too bad this stuff happens.......

Well I guess we all feel the same right now no unless your hockeytownredwings. I'm not even going to spill my frustrations.

Wow Ferris, Robert Morris? Are you serious? I'll excuse the hiccup against Canisus, but not twice in a row. You return 14 of your best 15 players, and a top 15 recruiting class, and do this...WOW.

I'm taking MSU 26-17

Hey, I would have if the season started already without one

Thats a huge blow. This is Sauer's time to put it all on his shoulders. I know there are still people who doubt him, because of the frozen four (I don't). I can't name another scenario that would be better for him to prove everyone wrong. And U-M got Jack Campbell, one of the nations best goalies for 2010!! Kill Jack Kill, oh wait I mean....

I think Purdue is the team to beat, but I wouldn't count out MSU. Wisconsin will be solid like usual too. It never matters who they lose player wise, because Bo Ryan is a good coach. I'm excited to watch U-M improve. They will struggle again, and really lack the big men with Udoh transferring, but hopefully they can make the NIT. I really like what I hear about John Beilein. I think he's going to do good things.... What a surprise a MSU fan started this thread (:

He was a really great player when he was here, but see no reason to retire #91. Kind of like #14 Great research though!!

I like to look it at it that way too, but I will be honest there is a major flaw in the U-M/Bama comparison: Bama has a senior QB, while Michigan will have a true freshmen next year. HUGE difference, but I think is a good comparison between two past successful coaches starting out fresh again.

Those are good examples, but Tenn/Neb (especially NEB) took big recruiting hits, but I will say recruiting rankings really need to be taken with a grain of salt. For every 5 star who lives up to the hype (Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Ernie Sims, Rey Manaluga, etc) you can name more 5 star busts (Kevin Grady, Rhet Bomar, Anothy Morelli, Kellly Baraka, etc) On top of that there are 3 star studs that are are always under the rader (AJ Hawk, Braylon Edwards, Mike Hart, etc).

I can't see Roy, and T.O. getting along...... Who disagreed with me on here that Roy wasn't worth 1st round value last week??? Looks like thats exactly what we got plus more.

Spot on, well said. I don't really see the point in that because some donors will never give RR a chance because Miles was their friend, and/or former teammate, and 1st choice. There were donors who hated Carr too. I agree with your post. I would be shocked if recruiting took a blow. It won't. Look at ND's season last year, and their recruiting class (ranked No. 1). Players understand rebuilding is going on, and know they are still looking into a major program. Bama's cupboard was full too when Saban got there. Players are still going to go the school because of the name, and history behind it. Look at Michigan's class for next year with 2 good QB's, slots, etc. Heck they got 2 studs already from the 2010 class.

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Didn't vote, it's too easy of a prediction I'm starting to wonder if Floyd Resse is a campaigning for President rather then to replace Millen. How hard is it to understand he wants the job? Holy crap!!

Holy crap Conklin!! What a pleasant surprise. Hope there is a lot more where that came from! Good work #29!!!!

That is true. We would still have Baby Boren, and Arrington with Carr, and MAYBE Manningham. But how much would those 2 really help with Threet, and a still very poor OL? Like I've said before I believe Mallett was gone no matter what. He didn't like the school, he missed home, and was alienating teammates. RR wanted Mallett, but like he said when Mallett turned it into a situation where RR had to literally start recruiting him, along with Pryor who are you going to recruit harder? A guy who doesn't want to be at U-M, or a guy who fits the style you are bringing in perfectly, and had legit interest in them. It's not a hard pick.

That is all very true on hoops/football, and there is not doubt you are right on the donors. Some donors have never even given Rodriquez a chance because their boy from LSU was not hired.

I agree on the talent part. They should win that game every time no matter what. I also agree it's a worse lose then App State. I don't agree with the hot seat though. Bill Martin gave more then enough time (actually too much time) for Tommy Amaker, and was on Lloyd Carr's side even if they would have went 0-12. Next year there will be even more growing pains. There will be a true freshmen probably starting at QB. If not starting getting a lot of PT, along with holes to fill on the DL, and more OL shuffles. Record wise should be much improved though. I'm not worried about RR. He will have them in the elite category in time....

That hand shake the Packers were doing today after big plays was awesome!!! It's basically giving the NFL the middle finger for their penalties on celebrations..... Chris Rose, on the other hand doing NFL games not awesome