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Carey Price is arguably the best goalie in the league. And he has made it this far into the playoffs how many times exactly? How many Cups does Lundquist have? But Waldo is the answer, right?

And yet they won 4 Cups during that time. How is that possible?

Revisionist history says no.

And Indiana hasn't had any good basketball teams since Tom Crean left, but they had some good ones 5-10 years ago.

Actually forgot he was in that one. Token white dude.

Neither of those scenarios is happening. Waldo is going top 10. I just dont want to be the team that drafts him that high.

No one is saying this but you. Bernier is here because he is a relatively cheap and competent goalie. This is a rebuilding team, so he fits in nicely for the time being. Literally no one has said anything about keeping him here long term or winning a Cup with him in net. There are, and will be, better options available if and when the team needs to upgrade. Bernier is a stopgap and isn't an improvement over Howard. I havent seen anyone say otherwise. That doesn't mean that this team has to draft a goalie at #6. It's not an either/or situation. There are other options.

No. I said Belfour's individual awards (plus wins and games played) gave him a decided advantage over Osgood. And is the reason he is in and not Ozzie when comparing these 2 specific players. I didn't say that individual awards were a requirement to get in.

Yeah. We should probably hate "Lincoln" and "Glory" too cuz Civil War was 150 years ago.

It's timeless.

Blashill wont be around once the team is competitive again. The first time they make the playoffs, Blash is gone. Once a new HC is named, I expect new assistants to be brought in too.

Who is saying otherwise?

Belfour: 484 wins, 2.50 GAA, .906 S%, 2 Vezinas, 4 Jennings, Calder, Stanley Cup Osgood: 401 wins, 2.49 GAA, .905 S%, 0 Vezinas, 2 Jennings, No Calder, 3 Stanley Cups Both played 18 seasons, but Belfour played in more than 200 games more than Osgood, totalling almost 1000. That's insane. Only 4 goalies in NHL history have played more: Brodeur, Luongo, Roy, and Sawchuk. You have to be pretty friggin good to start that many games. In terms of individual stats, Belfour and Ozzie are mirror images. But when you factor in wins and individual awards, Belfour has a decided advantage. That is the difference between getting in the HoF and not. It isn't much, but I agree with the voters on this one.

2020: Markstrom, Talbot, Holtby 2019: Varlamov, Lehner, Talbot (Fleury would have been if not for the expansion draft and re-sign by Vegas) 2018: Halak, Lehner 2017: Ryan Miller Generational goalies are not available in free agency, I agree. Even elite ones are hard to come by unless you trade for them. But good, solid goaltenders, who can still backstop a Cup team are available every year in free agency.

Okay. I see what ur saying. My argument would be that the HOF has it right when it comes to goalies, but is far too generous when it comes to skaters. Too many guys get in that shouldn't. Of your group, I think Sundin should be, but not Dino or Andreychuk. Just my opinion. Fedorov and Bure? Of course. Mogilny? Not so sure. And if you have to think about it, they shouldn't be there. As much as I love Ozzie, I just don't think he belongs. When it comes to his generation, Brodeur, Roy, Hasek, Belfour...yes. But I wouldn't put Ozzie at that talent level.

So you agree then that you can win without elite goaltending. So why can't we just sign one later after the team in front of him is built? And you mention Lehtonen. He was drafted by Atlanta and later traded to Dallas for Ivan Vishnevsky and a 4th round draft pick. The Stars didn't have to use a high draft pick to acquire their elite goalie.

This has actually been debunked. There 289 players in the HHOF. 36 are goaltenders, or 12.5% of inductees. Considering that goaltenders make up less than 10% of the NHL, goalies in the Hall are actually overrepresented. Is that Wisconsin math?

Let's wait to see what happens with Petro first and then wait until after we have a good team of skaters before we think about goalies. Always some good ones available in free agency. Every prospect is compared to someone. But how often do they actually measure up?

I can't listen to him talk for more than 30 seconds before I have to turn it off. I really hope they don't do many interviews with him.

Lol. The Spanish had nothing to do with that one.

One of the best sports movies of all times. She crazy.

97 team won a cup with an acquired thru trade Mike Vernon. 02 team won with a traded for Hasek. 08 team had Osgood and Hasek, both of whom were signed as free agents. The team also signed Curtis Joseph in 2002 who was considered an elite goalie. And Bernier just proves my point. A 1st round pick who ended up as a lower level starter. And the Wings got him in free agency while someone else wasted their first round pick on him. Couldnt agree more. They both flop on the world stage.

Hoosiers aint rootin' for faux frenchies

Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) Tweeted: The Red Wings could be a suitor for pending UFA Alec Martinez, who scored the tying goal for Vegas last night. Jeff Blashill recruited Martinez to Miami and also coached him twice at Worlds. Detroit needs help on defense. Martinez is from Michigan, too. Good fit.

The Red Wings have never had any problem acquiring top tier goalies. We already have a 1st round draft pick in goal. His name is Bernier. I think he joined in 2005.