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Just watched episode 1. Gotta agree with u there. That woman is a hypocrite to the max.

Sad if true. Haven't started Tiger King yet. Any good?

I listed centers first. probably makes sense since Nielsen is at least useable at center

No penalty buyout? Nielsen would be my first choice. Abby 2nd. Larkin, Bert, Mantha Gagner, Zadina, Fabbri Flip, Timo, Moose Ehn, Glenny, Helm Svech Still leaves room for our first if he makes the roster.

Is he better than Rasmussen? If not, that roster spot should go to Moose.

Except for that CBA thing.

This is a fan site. So you're going to get a fan's perspective. If you want actual scout evaluations, I can suggest dozens of sites on the internet that do just that.

Matching a 3 year deal on a player who had already proven over previous seasons that he was spent. A forward who had younger, deserving players waiting to take that roster spot and was easily replaceable from within. And bringing back a goalie on a one year, last chance/show me type deal who had a horrendous season, but has proven over his career to be a quality player at his position. A guy who happens to play a position the team NEEDS to fill and doesn't have any NHL level or NHL ready players in the organization to fill it. Let's grow apples in Florida cuz they're the same as oranges, right?

No you wouldn't.

It's a little different when you see it on paper. There's the perception of bad, and then there is the physical manifestation of it.

I actually had no idea his career numbers were that good. I think he's earned another year. It's not like it's a Dan Cleary situation.

OMG. We were 23 points behind the 2nd worst team in the league? Wow.

"You got Sy-derd!"

Actually it is different now. We weren't getting lottery picks in 2011 because we were still making the playoffs. We were picking in the late teens and 20s. Now we're getting lottery picks. 4th year in a row picking in the top 10 and 1st time picking in the top 5. And I suspect that will be the case for a few more drafts to come. So I do think that there is a lot more room for optimism.

Yes. This team needs a few more years of drafting. Which they will. Because they'll finish near the bottom. And get lottery picks. Without trading away the young talent in the team now. You seem to think that this team needs to trade away the Larkins and Manthas and get draft picks back. Which wouldn't be lottery picks anyway. Which seems pointless to me. If this team becomes successful, it will be because they have gotten top 5 picks for the next few seasons. And drafted well with those picks. And added those draft picks to the existing core. The Wings are drafting for sure in the top 4 this draft. And most likely drafting in the top 5 again the following season and at least top 10 the year after that. All 3 of those picks are likely to be high end players at the NHL level. When you consider that we already have 3 likely top 4 dmen and 4 top 6 F on the roster, why would you think we wouldn't be any good if the remaining spots on D and F are filled in the next few drafts with high end draft picks?

This. We're likely to draft in the top 5 next year as well and in the top 10 the following 2 drafts. Hypothetically, in 4 years the roster could look like: Laff-2022 1st rounder-Zadina Bert-Larkin-Mantha Rass-Veleno-Berggren 2021 1st rounder-Seider McIsaac-Hronek DK-Lindstrom All without trading away any of the better talent on the current roster. Then you can start trading away guys like Mantha and Larkin, acquire more draft picks, and move other guys up to replace them.

Pretty sure there's a fallacy in there somewhere. Literally no one has said this.

Guns don't disrespect people. People do.

You could still easily get a 1st+ back for a 30 year old Mantha or Larkin. Ideally, you've drafted well enough that you've still got other guys to fill in that top 6 when you do. You can't build a dynasty if keep trading away all of your young talent.

I dont see any chance the season gets finished at all. This whole pandemic thing is likely to last into the summer. Even if the virus goes "dormant" in the warmer weather, as some are hoping, it would be too late to start any kind of playoff without pushing the start of next season into 2021. Even if you're packing a full auto, I don't see any chance you're taking out an entire pack of dogs before they take you down. Unless you're like an Assassin Droid from Star Wars. Which I doubt.

Actually, these guys would all still be IN their primes for another 4 or 5 years. If we have 2 or 3 more good drafts, that would push into being competitors before their prime runs out. Then you trade them for picks and replace them thru the draft without having to tank again. If you want to be another Buffalo, that's fine. I don't. If you want to trade Larkins for Svechnikovs. Be my guest. I fail to see how that makes this team better. This how you end up in a permanent rebuild.

The problem with trading away Mantha or Larkin is that the return would probably be of lesser potential. Lottery teams aren't trading for them, and the better teams who would be interested, would have late 1st round picks to offer. Does it make sense to trade young players like Larkin and Mantha for picks who aren't likely to be any better? I don't think so. Even if Larkin isnt a 1C, keep him as a 2C (a position of need) and draft ur 1C. If Mantha isnt an elite power forward, draft one. Mantha will still make a good 2nd line winger. I think trading away any of these guys would be a mistake and would be hitting the reset button and setting the rebuild even farther back.

Why does everyone think we need to get rid of Larkin/Mantha/Bert and bring in a new core? Why can't we have it both ways? Keep the young players we have now while simultaneously bringing in new players? No.

Holland was criticized in the media the day those contracts were signed. Not surprised about Okposo, Lucic, or Eriksson either. How any competent GM thought those were reasonable contracts is beyond me. Dogs. Really mean dogs.

Nah. Out here in the burbs there's plenty of deer, squirrels, and raccoons. We don't have any need for ur overpriced hipster baked goods.