The 91 of Ryans

Jesus. What a pile of bulls***.

LOL Dude. He's been GM of this team for all of three months. Eff me. Also, let's be honest. You're trying to be a little iconoclastic here no? It's sort of your thing right?

Those people would be stupid.

So? That wasn't my point. According to.....?

Yep. My take is that he wants to start being a better defensive team, at least, while he's trying to figure out everything else he's got to work with. Signing Nemeth and Filpulla should help knock the GAA down a bit.

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I don't care about your stupid list. Mantha and Bertuzzi are both better than AA.

Yep. But we're not talking about the rest of the league. We're talking about a handful of Wings forwards. Mantha and Bertuzzi both got to play in the tournament and AA didn't. Mantha because he has some international pedigree (WJHC) and is actually better than AA. Bertuzzi because he's a ******* motherf***ing GAMER and is actually better than AA.

You'd know

Larkin > Bertuzzi > Mantha > AA

But that's where MacIssac was drafted. So you care about our 2nd round pick, but don't care about a 2nd round pick. ANYWHO....... .......a realistic NHL trade should make any fan a little uncomfortable. Chances are, if you are happy with it, it ain't going to happen. And I'm telling you, it would take Mantha + to aquire that guy,. Rather trade Mantha +MacIssac + 2nd

A 25 goal winger + future Ouellet + the chance to draft another Ryan Sproul maybe vs legit top 4 , 40 pt D-man, 24 years old. lol "dumb" I know you are over valuing our players and our ability to score big in the 2nd round.

Yup And in reality it would probably take Mantha + MacIssac + 2nd to maybe get it done.

Me too. Very much so.

Yzerman's going to clean house.

My math says Zadina alone does it. Rasmussen will almost do it as well and can also fill your craving for big men who float. I was giving you two options. We will never be able to have a real conversation if you refuse to admit your bias. I'm afraid it's always going to be "next season" for Big Tony.

Role: goals 2020 - 21 season Rasmussen - 20 Zadina - 25 There, I did it.

I keep hearing about Mantha breaking 30 (let alone 35) but I have yet to see it. I mean, I hope he does? He'll be 25 before 19-20 season starts. To say it would be "beyond dumb" to trade him right now is just you riding the Tony Train you've built for yourself. Ask yourself this: would YOU trade Mantha for Sergachev? No. Would Tampa? No. That's basically it in a nutshell. Defensemen are far and away more valuable than scoring wingers. What was that you said? "There's no two ways about it".

Because defense is more important. And 25 goals a year can be replaced by committee OR by Zadina. Also Larkin has arrived. Mantha's always "getting there".

U R such a Mantha hypeboy. There are at least 20 NHL defensemen I would trade Mantha in order to acquire.

Have you, ever?

Watch in horror as all the marqee UFAs re-sign with their respective teams and "Summer of Stevie" slowly descends into "Summer of Cirrhosis" ?

True. But most of these guys had chances with other teams and couldn't hack it. Conversely, Samuelsson, Lilja, and Cleary came here as castaways from other teams and resurrected their careers here under Babcock. Until playoff time rolled around. zZING!!!!

AA's a winger. Yzerman wanted him where he belongs.

Wings needed a stop-gap center. Can Dzingle play center? No? Then why are we comparing these two players? #grumypants