The 91 of Ryans

I get it. I really do. But when Carlson's contract was truly a problem (like in 5 years when the little ones start really getting paid) all those sandbaggers like Helm, Nielsen, Ericsson, Kronwall, etc. will be long off the books. Anyway, he won't be coming here. He won't. Not from Holland, at least.

I would. because then I could start showing them ALT+PRINT SCREENs of this thread and be like "WTF dudes!!? Where were you when Robot and others dragged that SCF thread into the weeds???" Then they'd be all like "OMFG you're right!!!" Then they'd make me a mod, and then I'd ban you for the half-dozeneth time

Let's look at it this way (you'll have to use your imagination a bit for this) Would you trade: - Mantha + - Kindl/Smith + - Kindl/Smith/Sheanan/McCollum + Jurco for a can't miss perennial 30 - 40 goal scoring, two way winger? Because those guys above represent the potential all of those assets I mentioned in my trade scenario. Zadina > Mantha guaranteed and everything else is not even close to a guarantee.

See above. If we came out of the first round with Zadina and Bouchard/Hughes/Boquist/Dobson? Giddy UP!!

Proactive Self-preservation.

So Mantha + Chowlowski + 30th + 2nd rounder for #3 pick? they'd love themselevs some french scoring winger action in MTL I bet.

You'd have a better chance winning over CRL than this ever happening.

I've ALT+PRINT SCREENed the living s*** out of this thread. Can't wait till the mods try and come down on me in a GDT this fall.

I'd rather sign Green and have Hronek make the big club with Jensen or Hicketts as the 7th. Dekeyser Green Daley Ericsson Kronwall Hronek Jensen/Hicketts

Exactly. If Orpik can play his style and be effective at 37, I think Carlson would still have a lot to offer 6 or even 7 years into his deal. Ultimately, the thing I don't get is that we've been talking about this team getting better on D for 5 years now. Here's a chance to make it happen, and we don't want to because....why again? Money? Term? Timing? because now we don't want the D to be better? At least not for another 2.5 years? Because Carlson will stunt the growth of some plug like Hicketts ffs? IF he'd sign here for 7.5 or 8M x 7, Holland would be foolish not to do it.

I wasn't saying you were the bad guy. Just that the exhausted overall political and socially charged rhetoric from multiple members on the last couple of pages of this thread would have warranted warnings and probably suspensions in another LGWs lifetime. We're not supposed to be talking about this s***. Ya feel?

And to think I was banned for saying mean things to Bill/Jonas and creating a joke sock account.

GTFO! Source?

Everyone always says they love the team they play on and that they'd love to stay........until they don't stay. After seeing all his former team mates drunk with the cup for the last week, my uninformed bet is on him leaving for a contender (like Toronto or Vegas) on a deal longer than 2 years. Jensen out + Hicketts in seems sort of like a lateral move to me. I do not subscribe to I Love Joe Magazine at all. #over_effing_rated

Agreed. I bet he walks as a UFA. Someone will give him 5 x 3. Just glad it won't be Holland. (I do like Green tho)

^ Well explained. Gotcha.

It won't happen because the assets aren't there to make the three deals you talk about. Say nothing of the will of other parties to make the deal. Svech and the 30th might get you Bean because there's an opportunity there if the Hurricanes take lil brother. Make that one deal if you can maybe and hope Trouba signs as a UFA when this team is closer to being competitive. Trading for Van's 7th is a pipe dream. Obviously. If I'm reading this wrong, I apologize, but you make it sound like the only barrier in making these deals is 'cuz Holland' and The Wings org. When what's really standing in the way is reality.

You know it. Like a portable toilet at Coachella.

Only the Columbian kind

The hell? I was being sarcastic. You known, as if this generation of Wings fans know what it's like to truly suffer. Could have easily used the Daley signing as a reason to mock - complain. Someone help me out here. FWIW, I loved the Ras pick. Kudos to the editor for choosing that pic.

Oh come on you two! Toughen up.

Yeah. So? Kenny took Rasmussen ahead of Tippet and Vilardi. Call me when the Sens fan base have to deal with that

Meh. Never heard of you,

7 !!! I am SO glad you are not Holland.

I only care about one of those players and hopefully he'll be traded to Carolina by then for Jake Bean