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Everything posted by Vladinator
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As much as I'd like to see the Wings add someone, I'm glad that they cannot afford him...if that is the only way to stop Holland from bringing him here, so be it...
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Gotta Get Away - The Rolling Stones
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-d...ov=ap&type=lgns If it can somehow be proven that he lied to Congress, would he face any charges?
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Jimi Hendrix - Red House
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The Reverend Horton Heat - Liquor, Beer, & Wine
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George Thorogood - One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer
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Castles made of Sand - Jimi Hendrix
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favorite wing never to win the cup in Detroit
Vladinator replied to Grind_Lines_#1_Fan's topic in General
Bowman didn't like Drake either, that is why he was thrown in... But as for this being the worst trade in your lifetime, how old are you? Adam Oates for Bernie Federko was pretty bad, much worse than this trade. Cheveldae didn't do anything after leaving here. Drake turned out to be pretty good (he was one of my favorite wings at the time, I was mad that he was thrown into that trade), but nowhere near the level that Adam Oates went to after being given away by the wings... I don't agree with that assessment. Yes, Oates was great after the trade. But Federko contributed a lot more than Essensa and Bautin combined ever did, and Federko was just as solid a contributor as Oates in his time for Detroit. Oates likely would not have done any better for the Wings had he stayed--his improvement was largely linked to Hull and Neely, and would not have happened because of Steve Yzerman being engraved on the first line. Oates would have never had the opportunity and possibly would have been demoted when Fedorov entered the league. Drake was developing into a heck of a player real quick, great defense and a solid offensive contribution. He's been one of the top 4-5 defensive forwards during the past decade consistently and has always been a big time ferocious hitter...would have been a huge plus for the team. Federko's one season with Detroit, he had 17 goals and 40 assists, then retired. Adam Oates' last season with Detroit, he had 16 goals and 62 assists (in only 69 games). Prior to that he had a season similar to Federko's season with Detroit (14 goals, 40 assists). Oates' 1st season away from Detroit (the year that Federko had the 57 points with Detroit), he had 23 goals and 79 assists in 80 games. That is 1.275 points per game, in Oates' last season with Detroit he averaged 1.13 points per game (in comparison Federko averaged 0.78 in his one season in Detroit). He may not have reached the same level with Detroit as he did in St. Louis and Boston, but he would have still put up strong numbers. His ice time was increasing, and would only have continued to do so. Perhaps when Feds came into the league, they would have been forced to move him, but they would have gotten much more for him at that point because he would have been more established as a player. In addition, Demers really wanted Federko because he had been so great for him in St. Louis, but it just didn't pan out here...one average season and he was done. This is by far a worse trade than the Drake/Cheveldae for Essensa/Bautin. Drake has developed into a solid player, and as I've said I was extremely angry when he was moved. You used the argument that Oates wouldn't have developed into the same player here, I echo that argument with Drake. Bowman referred to Drake as the dumbest hockey player that he had ever coached, do you really think that he would have gotten the ice time needed to develop under him? -
favorite wing never to win the cup in Detroit
Vladinator replied to Grind_Lines_#1_Fan's topic in General
Bowman didn't like Drake either, that is why he was thrown in... But as for this being the worst trade in your lifetime, how old are you? Adam Oates for Bernie Federko was pretty bad, much worse than this trade. Cheveldae didn't do anything after leaving here. Drake turned out to be pretty good (he was one of my favorite wings at the time, I was mad that he was thrown into that trade), but nowhere near the level that Adam Oates went to after being given away by the wings... -
favorite wing never to win the cup in Detroit
Vladinator replied to Grind_Lines_#1_Fan's topic in General
Gallant or Probert -
CuJo / Mac
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Time goes by - Triumph
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Sweet Sally - Ted Nugent
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Sweet Pain - Kiss
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No, No, No - Ted Nugent
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Rock Steady - Bad Company
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Impressive save, I couldn't think of another song with Prowler (or prowl for that matter)... Get it On - Kingdom Come
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Night Prowler - AC/DC
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That's the Way - Led Zeppelin (and I was wrong on Rocky Mountain Way, it was Joe Walsh solo not with the James Gang)
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Rocky Mountain Way - Triumph (cover of the Joe Walsh Song) I'm not sure, but I think that the Joe Walsh version was technically the James Gang...
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Over the Mountain - Ozzy
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Fight the Good Fight - Triumph (again)
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Magic Power - Triumph
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Angel of Death - Slayer
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Cry me a river - Various artists, but the one that I'm thinking of was Aerosmith