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Everything posted by Gniwder
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FIFY Ras and Veleno will make Larkin expendable very soon
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Tied with 3 others for #33 last year in PPG among centers league wide who played 50 games or more. Larkin literally has only 1 season where he scored among the top 30. 73 in '19!!! Wooooo He'll be traded as soon as Yzerman's deems Seider ready. Don't forget Seider is an Yzerman boy. Larkin is from the bygone Holland era.
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Exactly why it's even a questionable charging call. He was doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing, and it was a weird rare play that ended in a collision. Not an intentional charging play where a player unnecessarily skates down from the blue line to deliver a hit in the corner. How? Roughing is for on ice altercations, not hits during a play. What's the personal foul? Delivering a hit to player with the puck? Defenseless? How? He's square on to Evans. Not Scheifele's fault Evans not watching the defenders. And where is this all coming from that players need to hold back on hits and attempt to lessen impacts? That's not a thing. The puck crosses the goal line about 0.5 second before Scheifele makes contact with Evans. This bit about it "it was going in anyway" is pure malarchy. A half second sooner and the goal may not even happen without a poke play.
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Okay but Yzerman had already been captain for 7-8 seasons at that point, and would have been THE 1C on any other team in the league that didn't have Fedorov or Lemieux or something. Plus Yzerman and Feds had pretty much identical ice time for their entire time together. Saying Yzerman isn't a 1C because Feds was also there is like saying Zberg wasn't cause Dats was there or vice versa. And then you flip Hronek for a center. Seider/Jones > Seider/Hronek
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Well Larkin isn't a completely useless player like Smith was lol. So you're on slightly better ground here. I'm sure there's plenty of folks still holding on to hope that Larkin will somehow magically become a 1C caliber playmaking center 7 seasons into the league. But it's not gonna happen. We've seen plenty of him and he's had plenty of time to develop his game. That's simply not the player he is. He's a Philip Danault style 2C. And on the contrary, I think most folks have come to realize that already. Well Yzerman was actually a legitimate 1C and deserving captain lol Larkin is going to sink into the proverbial shadows both in the lockerroom and with fans as soon as Seider's charisma and play takes over this team. The age of Dylan is over. Mo is your captain now in all but name.
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The play was not over. Evans does not even have the puck over the red line (coming from behind the net) and out of the trapezoid when Scheifele is already at the top of the crease. Scheifele is literally within a foot away from connecting with Evans as the puck crosses the goal line (ending the play). That collision is happening whether you deem it necessary or not. The play does not blow dead and Scheif magically stops on a dime. Only way it doesn't happpen is if Scheifele realizes he has no chance of breaking up the play while Evans is still behind the net and decides to abandon the play. But the most frustrating part is Scheifele DID have a chance to break up the play. He was well within reach to make a play with the stick and prevent the goal but didn't. If that was your hang up on the hit I'd understand completely. But the collision is still happening in that scenario as well. The collision is absolutely necessary to make the play. Scheif just chose to brace for the hit instead of making the play he should have. I've explained this probably 3 times as well. Either refute it or just admit you don't like hard hits and move on. Isn't that kinda what I'm saying? He should have poked the puck and dealt with the ensuing awkward collision. Instead he (stupidly) does not make the stick play to prevent the goal and embraces the hit. Had Scheifele made the stick play no one would be crying about this. Even if Evans got hurt. And had the goal been successfully prevented there be highlights of "amazing defensive play by mark scheifele" (and oh yeah Evans got hurt) on your news feed. But instead it looked mean and mean is bad and bad boys get punished.
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I like that Edvinsson does MMA. So alpha.
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So let me get this straight. Your complaint about the hit is literally... it was too hard. Where were you when Kronwall put Havlat to sleep? Why didn't Kronwall let up a bit? Hell Kronwall doesn't even look at the puck or Havlat's stick. Not once. He even turns his back and digs in to hit harder! It's almost like that's the point of hitting or something! The concussion Havlat sustained from that was totally unnecessary. What was Kronwall thinking that big dumby? I already complained that Scheifele did not attempt to play the puck. If I was Maurice I would scold him for that. But that collision is coming whether he plays the puck or not. Scheifele isn't stopping on a dime and he does stop skating at about the faceoff dots. But instead of playing the puck Scheifele braces for and leans into the hit. Completely understandable to do so, and he did it cleanly. Sorry that big hits upset you. It's part of the game.
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Yeah yeah Evans got hurt so you don't like the play now. If Evans gets back up and skates it off does it warrant a suspension in your mind? It's not a pro or anti violence thing. You're on the slippery slope of anything that causes injury should be eliminated/punished because you don't wanna see it. Honestly it's a very rare play. Evans in deep alone attempting a wrap around with defenders rushing in from the top of the zone to stop it. My honest question for you is, what alternative would have been acceptable for you? 1. Stop skating or peel off and make no attempt at a defensive play? 2. Go for the poke check and slam into Evans anyway? If there's a 3rd option I'm not seeing, feel free to clue me in on it.
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>And JJ Watt with a big tackle to sack the QB ATTEMPTED MURDER >Flag for false start on the play EVIDENCE OF ATTEMPTED MURDER >After review JJ Watt was over the line of scrimmage, 1st down, 5 yard penalty MURDER CONFIRMED >QB hurt on the play, will not return to the game HOW CAN JJ WATT GET AWAY WITH THIS The NFL has determined that the sack is totally legitimate, but notes that it was hella big, therefore JJ Watt will be suspended 4 games.
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I don't feel sorry for him. My playoff team is the Habs this year. @Akakabuto, @marcaractac, and @F.Michael can vouch for that. I feel sorry for the state of the game when big clean hits get this type of condemnation from fans and the league feels forced to hand out big suspensions. You cannot cite one thing about the hit that is illegal besides a possible charging call. To hand a player a 4 game suspension in the playoffs for a questionable charge is patently mental.
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Clean hits = trying to kill a guy I guess you missed the part about overreactions
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Too late Scheif. In the modern NHL big hits are automatically dirty and we have to have overblown reactions and suspensions for them. Case in point: Based Shea DPS is on drugs "Fans seem pretty upset, better levy a big suspension so we look like were in touch with the fans"
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Asked around the CBJ boards about Lehtonen. Seems well liked and they want Jarmo to bring him back next year. Decent defender, strong moving the puck. Good third pairing guy with potential to become a 2nd pairing PP QB very soon. I'd like to lure this guy up to Detroit if we can. Zach Hyman turned down $5 mil from the Leafs. Always liked him and would be happy to scoop him up. $5 mil is steep though...
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It's sorta hard not to when you're recycling the same old excuses you used for Smith all over again on Larkin. No one's buying your crap this go around... not that anyone really bought it with Smith though either lmao. Seider is going to make folks forget Larkin even exists. He'll be the best player on the team by far and the clear leader in the lockerroom. It's painfully obvious. Yet you can't seem to see it when it's an inch from your face. No worries. All in good time my friend.
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He's 25 and has 6 full seasons in the NHL. You're witnessing his peak. "Brendan Smith is only 27, he hasn't peaked yet, I see him as pucking moving top pairing Dman." We've heard it all before
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2019-20: Krsmith: "This season was very obviously a down year and an outlier. He will bounce back strong this season. Mark it." 2020-21: Krsmith: "This season was very obviously a down year and an outlier. He will bounce back strong this season. Mark it." Pretty consistent and rapid decline for him. Your "down year" excuse doesn't work when it's happening in back to back seasons.
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C 6/4 Rasmussen Namestnikov Fabbri Glendening Pearson Veleno D 5/6 (one going to Seattle) Seider Hronek Lindstrom Stecher Cholowski Dekeyser Help I don't know how to allocate roster positions or what this means
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Larkin has been a 45-55 pt center over the last two seasons. His linemates score and he doesn't it. Keep telling yourself he's a 1C despite the glaring evidence. We watched you do it with B. Smith, and I'm inclined to allow you to do it again.
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Welcome to the board. Yeah Larkin is a real top C. Up there with the big names like Eller, Wennberg, and Kempe. Rasmussen and Veleno are going to make him expendable real quick, and Pearson is probably our most underrated prospect. Real good two way center.
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No idea. Is this supposed to be evidence the hit is dirty lol? I wanna expand on the play further though. I think Scheifele actually makes the pansy move on the play. And Maurice should be pissed at him. If you watch the replay Scheifele clearly has the opportunity to go for the pokecheck and doesn't take it. He doesn't even need to dive, his stick is well within reach of the puck before it enters the net. But he doesn't extend or reach and doesn't go for the puck. Why? You better believe I'm gonna tell you why. Because the play is going to result in a collision regardless of what Scheifele does. If he pokes that puck he and Evans are colliding, no doubt about it. But instead of reaching for the poke, putting himself in an awkward position prior to impact, and sacrificing the body, Scheifele makes the selfish play (and health conscious for himself) and pulls his stick in and braces for the check. Maurice shouldn't be pissed Scheifele made the check, he should be pissed he didn't go for the puck and risk injury. The check is simply the result of Scheifele not making the play he should have made.
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Yes. "technically" the hit was clean. I'm glad you're at least giving up on your blindside BS I'm not saying it's not a charge. Technically it is, because a charge is defined by distance traveled. This just isn't the type of play a charge is meant to prevent. Again, charging is meant to prevent a player from unnecessarily picking up speed over a long distance to make a hit. Scheifele wasn't unnecessarily picking up speed to line up an arbitrary far away hit. He has every reason to rush back to play defense and protect his net. Plenty of plays occur where two players rush over a long distance and a hit occurs (usually chasing the puck), and its not dubbed charging. That's why we have the delayed icing rule now. So yes, on paper it's a charge. But in context, that's an extremely weak charging call. At most this is a 2 min standard penalty. And this is exactly how I can tell your reaction to the hit is emotional, not logical. Resulting injury has no bearing on whether the hit is good or bad. Plenty of legal clean hits result in injury. The injury doesn't make the hit bad. "The hit looked bad" "Badly hurt someone" You haven't posited anything besides this BS. If this is our standards for dangerous plays violence in the game is essentially over. Everything Kronwall did over his career should be dubbed dirty and bad.
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Technically yes. But charging is meant to stop Radko Gudas from unnecessarily picking up speed skating across two zones and then making a hit in the corner. When a player is literally in the process of scoring a goal with players rushing back on D, it's really no longer an intentional charge. Unless we want to make the rule that players rushing back to play D can no longer take the body on the play simply because of distance traveled. When that situation absolutely warrants distance traveled. Not at all. Now you're reaching. He's facing Scheifele and hit square on. The most you can say is his head was down. And I understand why... he's focused on scoring the goal. But that's not Scheifele's concern, and shouldn't be. Attempting a wrap around makes you ineligible to be hit now? Give an example
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I didn't ask you IF Scheifele took the opportunity to make a hit. We both know this. I asked you what was wrong about the hit? Hitting is not against the rules. And players with the puck are eligible to receive them. As far as I can tell the hit is absolutely clean, but one could argue you charging. Do you disagree?