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I am arguing DPS got it wrong here if u hadnt figured that out. So what was all that about evans being defenseless and vulnerable? Had a few to many? 1. Yes, but cut off speed 35 ft prior to contact. Opposite of a charge. 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. No 6. Yes s*** i think u can easily say no to half that BS. Are you honestly retarded or u just a big drinker up there?

Lmao doubting seider? Ill take that bet. Please say some more s*** i can quote when hes winning norris trophies.

Its bc of Seider and larkins captaincy staus. Itll be the emerging debate throughout the year. Seider is a total package. Skill, physicality, attitude, charisma. Future HOFer. Larkin is boring and a good defensive 2C. But hes from Michigan... The praise for Seider is going to grow rapidly within the Red Wings, within the league, and abroad (best German player of all time) The biggest mistake i think Yzerguy ever made was naming larkin captain. Seider is literally going to outshine Larkin to the point he needs to be stripped or traded. Just wait. I havent been wrong about this kid yet.

We needed a new KR. Bless u sir. 1. Never said it was the only job of a 1C. Nice strawman. A 1Cs job is essentially everying and anything, but they absolutely have to produce points and scoring chances. Probably more so than any other player on the team. Larkin is entirely mediocre at that, which is why hes not a 1C on a good team. Larkins linemates improved their scoring because theyre good young players that are progressing their game. Larkin should be benefiting from that increased production. But you seem to think larkin stays at the blue line and watches them play offense to cover for them? Am i interpreting your notion correctly? Funny way of saying hes not a 1C More straw men I openly admit Larkin is strong defensive player and fast skater. I guess that means i only look at the numbers to you? I encourage you to talk to other fans and escape the fanboy bubble for a moment. No one thinks this highly of Larkin besides circle jerking detroit fans. Its cringey and embarassing the excuses made for this kid. And im not even claiming hes a bust or something. And furthermore, just watch him play. I dont claim to be a scout but theres absolutely nothing impressive about his offensive game. He can skate and hold on to the puck. After that hes entirely average. Defend your boy. Ill be here still when hes still scoring at a 2C level with vrana and raymond around him

A little less convenient, i was driving 2000+ miles cross country, stopped at cabelas in michigan to shop for my stuff i needed, and this puss puss still never showed despite talking made s***.

The moment you find urself making excuses for players you should ask yourself "why the f*** am i doing this?" "Am i being a slappy fan boy?" I knew a guy who worked for olympia entertainment and he said the illitches specifically do not hire anyone who has any kinda fandom for the teams. Clouds judgment. Stop being larkin fans and evaluate him like u would a dallas star player... then ull realize his true nature.

Remember when u agreed to fight me in the parking lot of the dundee cabelas and then didnt show up? U got me good bro.

In fact u should be excited when Yzerman drafts the #25 at 6. It means Mo Seider 2.0 incoming.

Sure but your essentially arguing: >lets mask Larkins deficiencies by propping him up with not 1 but 2 elite wingers. Id rather just address the truth of the situation now instead of banking on maybe having multiple elite wingers one day to save larkins 1C position.

Completely disagree. A 1C's job is to generate points - a lot of points - and also to do that while dealing with often the toughest matchup trying to shut u down. If larks cant handle that responsibility hes not a true 1C. Furthermore we've watched Larkins linemates excel and grow. Bertuzzi, Mantha (except this season) Fabbri, Zadina, and now Vrana. Yet Larkin regresses while they develop. So your theory about its just his weak ass linemates, isnt at all true. Larkin is an impressively fast, defensively capable, top 6 center. He does not possess the play making ability to ever be a true backbone 1C in this league.

Exactly why DPS is a joke. Larkin incident ignored. Evans incident recieves the hammer. When Larkin was in a far more vulnerable position and the play is actually dirty. DPS reacts based on fan uproar. Only Detroit fans said anything about Larkin. But half the league was watching and crying for poor head down Evans. Theyre social police at this point. Ive said from the very start of this discussion that it is technically a charge and i cant fault one for arguing that line. You chose to parade out a buncha made up crap about Evans being defenseless and vulnerable instead. So spare me the "what is so hard about this to understand" when you circle back to charging. It's a very weak charging call. Because the play mandates Scheifele traveling a great distance regardless of contact. Had it been a tighter race for the puck and the two crashed in the corner before Evans could even attempt a wrap around... no charge would be called. Just like charging is never called on those plays despite distance traveled. The league is reacting because the hit was big. Furthermore, Scheifele lets off the gas before contact! I checked the measurements and he stops skating a full 35 ft before making contact with Evans. This exactly what he should have done to negate a charge. As the play develops, and he realizes hes going to make contact with Evans, he stops 'charging' forward. Weakest charging call of all time. Hit clean. Any suspension is pure tom foolery.

I would throw Viro into that mix on the LHD side. IMO he's honestly our best D prospect outside of Seider and Johansson. McIsaac and possibly Wallinder should be in there too. I'm really not as high on Tuomisto as many folks are. I'd list Viro, Wallinder, and McIsaac ahead of him. At forward you're missing Smith and Pearson. Both look like NHLers to me. Petruzelli should be considered at goalie. His time is approaching. We need superstars at any position. That's the hole. Maybe less so D cause of Seider.

Exactly. And also exactly why basing suspension on injury is the most moronic thing the league has ever done. Clean legal hit? Too bad - Evans got hurt from the ensuing incidental head bonks. Now your clean hit is considered dirty and you must sit 4 games. This league is approaching total clown-world real quick. If you want to make that Scheifele hit illegal, great. Change the rules to make it so. But to pretend that hit was egregious under the current rules is more laughable than the leafs franchise still claiming it was their cup year. And I'm honestly shocked how many folks agree with the league here. Big hit hockey is dead. If this is the reaction to this hit then we're going to be going by women's rules sooner than I could've even imagined (not hyperbole).

The official spot. NHL.com. 2015/16: Larkin finishes 65th among league centers in PPG (excluding centers who played less than 50 games) 2016/17: Larkin ties for 95th-98th (same parameters) with Devin Shore and Jean-Gabriel Pageau 2017/18: Ties for 33rd-34th with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 2018/19: Ties for 19th-22nd with Lindholm, Hertl, and Duchene 2019/20: Ties for 32nd-33rd with Logan Couture 2020/21: Ties for 67th-73rd with Chytil, Eller, Pageau, Statsny, Kempe, Wennberg (excluding centers who played less than 30 games) His average career finish (taking the highest number from ties) and excluding his first two seasons is: 38th You guys literally love to call him a legit 1C because of 1 season out of 6 where he tied with Duchene, Hertl, and Lindholm. This is clearly a 2C. 3/4 of the last seasons tell you this. He's 25 now and has 6 seasons under his belt. And he's not improving anymore, in fact he's declining on the stat sheet. Don't feed me the excuse of the team sucks, cause we've watched talented players around him and on his line score. Will he jump back up to the 30-40 center range this next year? Quite possibly. But that's 2C level. Call a spade a spade. IMO the most egregious error a team can make is unreliably assessing the talent you have or will have (scouting). This is the bread and butter of any organization. Teams that can't do this effectively operate in a fog of war that leads to bad trades and utilizing talent improperly. If you don't think Ras or Veleno have true 2C potential then they should both be traded immediately while they still have value and potential as prospects. I say this because Larkin is also a bonafide 2C. And if Ras and/or Veleno can't replace him I'd rather keep Larkin. I think Ras is going to do very well for the Red Wings though. He took very large steps as a 21 year old this year. Larkin should worry about his job.

Again >Hit not late >Play not dead >Scheifele stops striding 15 ft before the hit >Hit is shoulder to shoulder Text book clean hit The only one doing something stupid on the play is Evans. He put himself in a vulnerable position going for an empty net goal. Had he kept his head up he may not have done this. But he did and he paid the price for it (also getting the goal). It is not Scheifele's responsibility to not hit a player who puts themselves in a vulnerable position. It's said players responsibility to not put themselves in vulnerable positions. Play dumb = win dumb prizes.