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This is exactly why women do not come forward with domestic violence. Backward attitudes like this. That it's just a woman after a payday. Disgusting. More than 70% of domestic violence in the USA goes unreported, I can't imagine how much worse that is in eastern Europe. Kuznetsov, Gusev, Dadonov, and Buchnevich, are smart enough not to come out against Putin. Prolly smart enough not to put their hands on a woman too...

Krupp took Berlin to the finals not too long ago. Now he's gonna turn around Cologne with Landon Ferraro, Pogge, James Sheppard, and a 19 year old Barinka. You'll eat those words like spoiled kraut.

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The next Red Wing coach is Uwe Krupp Laugh all you want now, but I got the inside track on this one.

First off, we have to start by believing all victims. Just because Nazarov and Putin are dicks, doesn't make it not true. The curious thing is, why is Breadman taking a leave of absence if it's not true..? 1. It is true and he's retreating before this blows up 2. It's not true, and he now fears for his families safety in Russia. My one question would be why Panarin? Plenty of other Russians in the NHL showed support for Navalny.

https://www.sport-express.ru/hockey/nhl/news/chikago-i-detroyt-interesuyutsya-zhafyarovym-1758512/ Article in Russian. He's 26 with 58 pts in 54 KHL games this season. Don't know much else about him. Most likely overlooked due to his size. 5'9" and 170 lbs. Chicago is the other team pursuing him. Says he is determined to come west and join the NHL. His contract in the KHL expires on April 30th.

>Wings fans ***** every year that the Oilers get all the #1s >Wings fan ***** now that they can't be like the Oilers and get all the #1s I'm absolutely on board with you. Just go back to the simple reverse order draft system. But now they've created false hype around this draft lottery night thing and I think they like that they managed to build a new thing we get to watch on TV for somehow a whole 30 minutes plus. Didn't they split into two parts this year too? Reallllly trying to artificially lengthen it lol But also remember: "Reverse drafting IS communism" - Wayne Gretsky, 1980 something

My biggest concern is not that he's gonna "ruin the culture" (not that we even have one) or be overly abrasive to teammates (these losers could use some abrasion). My biggest concern would be the reports that "he handles losing badly". This team is still gonna do a lot of losing even with him on it. If that's the case then he's probably indeed going to be a handful for management and coaches. Yzerman probably doesn't want to deal with it, but I'd sorta like to see someone get under Blashill's skin TBH... lol. But then who knows, maybe if DeAngelo flips out in the lockerroom after our 5th loss in a row it actually lights some fires under some butts....

Just commenting on the current internet zeitgeist. Again, I don't think NYR canceled him at all for his politics. They said as much, and they're much too smart for that anyway.

Agree with bolded. Disagree with underlined. Not sure how much you traffic twitter, reddit, or HF boards... but there's been a pretty widespread effort by fans to paint him as a racist for a while now, despite really no evidence of it. The twitter thing has been going on for a while now. Those 3 sites tend to lean pretty far left, so you pretty much get the classic: "He likes DJT. DJT = Hitler. Therefore ADA = nazi" logic, if I can put it so plainly. A lot of vitriol. At least that's what I've seen in my experience. You'll have to remind me on the Kane situation, it's been a while. But didn't the whole lockerroom/temmates turn on him? That cancer got traded for a good return. Then he had more problems in Buffalo and got traded for return again. I think no one having cap or actual money this year really helped DeAngelo get passed on. Maybe NYR should have handled the asset a literal differently given the circumstances. But hey they promised to waive and made good on it. I N T E G R I T Y

Not entirely sure I what those protocols are TBH Didn't bother to look since Covid is indeed a giant Chinese HO AXE

But his covid negligence could put the entire team at risk

DeAngelo doesn't believe in Covid

Sure I think it would be very smart to shelter ADA behind Hronek and future Seider. Deploy him only in the Ozone. Let him QB your PP. Seider and Hronek can both eat the hard 22-24 minutes a night. Give DeAngelo the remaining 12-16. Let him boost his O numbers like he's good at. But get the cost payoff from his low ice time and jerk discount. And don't get me wrong, I trust Yzerman here. He drafted and traded the guy. He know's DeAngelo - albeit a younger DeAngelo - better than most. In his shoes I would simply just walk down to Marc Staal's locker and ask him what he thinks ADA these days. Can he handle being on a losing team like this one? If that answer is no I think you pass on him pretty easily.

Sure sure, that's obviously the risk with a player like him. We're just so crappy and so uninspired that I'd pretty much welcome any decent player with some spunk and fight in him at this point. The rebuild thing - IDK - I don't think our young players are that good at this point. Like Hudler and Filppula, or Tatar and Nyquist after them. They'll be gone quicker than I think anyone might suspect. Hell we're already talking about moving on from Mantha. I'm looking more toward Seider, Raymond, and future drafts at this point. Guys that won't be on the roster for multiple years. In the meantime I'd give ADA a reclamation project chance on a low dollar low term contract. If he's cancer man just waive him and move on...

Maybe I wasn't clear. I don't think the Rags give a rats behind what political opinions ADA has. But they do care how he engages with fans online on his public account, despite what the topic might be. I mean he was getting into twitter skirmishes with fans and even threatened to meet a fan at MSG to throw down lol. Clearly his social media presence was a problem for the organization - understandably so - which was why the forced him to log off. As I detailed earlier in the thread, it just seemed to me like ADA was finally starting to clean his act up and grow up a bit. Most of his suspensions are from his OHL/TBL/ARI days. Pretty sure he didn't have any for two seasons now with the Rangers. Like he had put that behind him. Now this summer they finally got him off twitter. Then he had the bad start to the season, yelled at an official, got benched, and the wheels seemed to all come off at once. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he'll always be a south philly blowhard no matter what you do. Or maybe he's a late bloomer maturity wise, and this was just a fatal hiccup on that road. IDK.

Meh, him riding Georgiev certainly isn't a good look, but nothing I flip out over personally. Guys talk, guys fight, it's an intense game, it happens. I'm not all that impressed with Georgiev's reaction either, but again, guys fight, hug it out, move on. It happens. The waiver thing is being overstated. DeAngelo isn't an ELC contract. It's a multi year $5 million. Only 4 teams can fit that under the cap right now: Devils, Sens, Kings, Wings. None of those teams are in a win now situation, and with covid and actual cash tight, almost no one wants to add big cap hits especially with a risky player. Contracts have to go back the other way. But based on how the Rangers are negotiating (not wanting cash back) I doubt they're gonna find a dance partner and will have to buy him out. Someone will then leap on ADA this offseason for cheap I suspect.

> it's reported he's a loudmouth, emotional, prone to outbursts > confirmed by this recent incident and his waiving You believe this > It's reported that despite this he's well liked by his teammates > confirmed by current and past teammates and teams You don't believe this Forgive me, but you can see why it looks to me like your picking and choosing the information that helps confirm what you've already decided to be true. Now I'm not denying that he has a polarizing personality. I've seen the tweets. I've seen the history of suspensions. There seems to be a lack of composure with his emotional control there. He's very opinionated and doesn't back down from those opinions. IMO I see those qualities as a double edged sword. It's good to have a guy with such a high level of passion and conviction, but his lack of maturity to know when and how to display it obviously gets him into trouble in a professional setting. They've said when the team is winning TDA is one of the best guys to have around, but when the team is losing he does not handle it well. Furthermore, I won't also pretend that every player on that Rags team loved him. No group of 30 guys is gonna get along perfectly all the time. Some are better friends than others. But no team has ever reported him having deep strifes in the lockerroom with anyone. There was an attempt at it with some bad reporting that tried to suggest he was a bully to K'Andre Miller, implying racism. The team and other players have said that's completely false. And in fact DeAngelo took Miller under his wing when he came up the ranks and even collected his first goal puck for him. The point I'm taking forever to make is, like with most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Is he a conservative Qanon type guy who has maturity issues both online and on the ice? Absolutely seems to be the case. Is he a racist cancer that everyone hates? I'm not buying that at this point. Much like the John Chyaka situation in Arizona, everyone flipped on him for abandoning the team. Now that the dust is settling folks are realizing that there's a lot more to the story and the whole organizational structure has a cancer in it. Johnny may just have been trying to jump off a sinking ship before it went down. I think the Rags hated DeAngelo's twitter presence and how pissed their fanbase was about it. I know I would as a team from NYC. I think they worked on his maturity issues and it seemed to be going well for a long time there. Then the suspension, benching, and incident culminated quickly in them having to make good on their promise to waive him if any funny business occurred. I'm sure they did not make the decision to waive a young 60 pt Dman easily, but integrity by management has to be maintained at that point. It's a sucky situation. DeAngelo lost. The Rags lost... but someone this offseason might win walking into a cheap potentional 60 pt Dman. I wouldn't mind winning something like that for once as a modern Wings fan. I doubt the Rags organization cares to discriminate against TDA over his social political beliefs. However, social media presence was issue there. To the point that they instructed him to log off and end his account. Really really dumb on his part. Guy his age should know - especially as a public figure - you're gonna get put through the ringer and possibly lose business if you pop off online. I would take Evander Kane in a heart beat. I disagree with a lot of his politics, and his gambling issues seem to be a big problem. But he's got swagger and can play. That's all I really need from him personally. Then we can assemble a dark army of black players and ice the fab 5. Long shorts, black socks, and we can put Fubu on the helmets. Baller.

But what if he denies covid? Racism is a dead meme. We killed it in the 90s and then brought it back in the 2000s strictly for the lols. But it's too overplayed at this point. It's 2020 and denying covid is in. Would you want a covid denier on this team? Cause DeAngelo is at the cutting edge of covid denialism. I find this to be problematic. As a public sports figure he has a duty not to refute medical science publicly. What if influences fans to not take precautions? What if it leads to the team getting sick? People could die.

Time to reclaim Comrie boys

>Blash re-signed >Buncha stop gaps signed This isn't your fathers panzer tier tanking. This is modern M1 Abrams level tanking. Yzerman had zero intention of improving this roster this offseason beyond installing a supporting cast who won't be completely obliterated and may be trade-able down the road. The moment he re-signed Blash was pretty much a dead giveaway that this thing isn't over and he wants more cups in the cupboard yet. Now I'm with you that this offseason looks like a pretty clear time to make sweeping changes. Most contracts are ending, including the coach and the Weiss buyout. Just brace yourself... Cause I wouldn't be shocked if Yzerman does this AGAIN. I mean re-sign blash and commit to ANOTHER losing season. I hope I'm wrong and he believes we can turn the corner next year with Raymond and Seider and so on. But I won't be shocked if that's not true. He's only gone through 2 drafts with the Red Wings now. I think you can make a reasonable argument that it may be in his best interest to keep the tank chugging another 2 or 3 seasons on top of this. God that will suck.

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Every new account is me. And everyone knows it. I just feel bad for any legitimate new person who gets accused of being one of my socks. Regardless, I am a little tired of the song and dance. Report my accounts all you like fellas. In about 2 weeks Matt will log on to ban it, and then I will be back on under a new account 5 min later... and we will do it all over again. It's all a bit tiresome isn't it? I love this place. And I love all of you. And I'm never leaving. Kisses and hugs.

Bumping the thread cause overwhelming narcissism. HF boards gave ol CRL a nice suspension until April 15th. Apparently advocating to trade Givani Smith for Tony DeAngelo is racist lmao. They are pretty good at tracking IP addresses over there. Even after I posted for about an entire day on a sock account they managed to link it to my original. I use multiple IP's, but one of them I do not have a VPN on. Apparently they can see that that IP address previously logged on with my past account? I guess I got lazy, LGW is not nearly that sophisticated. Someone who is good at the hacking plz comment on this. I'm feeling awfully lonesome that @krsmith17 has not been around. I really wanted his expert opinion on the Mantha situation. I fear he has climbed inside a bottle and may never return to us. BB come back. Hopefully the year is going good for everyone. These Wings are boring.