Jimmybigrigs69

Anyone else noticed we've ONLY won the games that Watson has played in? He's wrecking shop out there. This lineup severely lacks any sort of toughness outside of the physical dominance of Mo and Edvinsson just being plain massive. You'd think this would be a missing element that Derek and Steve would like to find and add, which I assume is why he's here. Now I know what you're gonna say: But look how Derek played Kostin... All I'll say to that is, I suspect there was more going on with Kostin than just "Derek not liking bruisers". Trading Kostin for Simek - a guy who was making way too much money to be playing in the AHL - and 7th at the TDL was beyond strange. Steve didn't need Simek or the 7th. I suspect he was simply unloading a bad character in the room. Verbeek gets to unload cash in Simek and gets a 24 year old troubled project piece in Kostin, and in return Stevie gets a measly 7th... but also cuts out the weakest cancer prior to a potential playoff run. Probably a nod to the teams leaders that he hears their concerns and is behind them, but it's not part of the plan to BUYBUYBUY right now. And of course he would go on to cut fabbri and walman out for nothing a few months later, probably for the same reasons Think about how Kostin came to us as well. Holland said here you can have Kostin and Yammoto for free. He did that for cap space, but Yammoto was a majorly undersized scorer, who wasn't scoring, @ $3.1 million. Kostin was 2 years younger than him, also a former 1st rounder, big, nasty, and just had his first good season. Holland could have chose a number of other guys to package Yammoto with, but he prefered to get rid of Kostin. And now Kostin is on 4th team after 4 years in the league... He's being passed around like a hot potato with an IED made out of aids inside of it. Kostin was also a 24 year old former 1st when he got here, who probably wanted a chance to prove himself and crack a top6. So he may not have been exactly happy to be relegated to 4th-line/13th-forward. Watson on the other hand, he's 32 and he's been doing this for years. He knows his role, and he's BETTER at it than Kostin. He fights more than Kostin does, and he actually blocks shots and defends. His forechecking this preason has been to my liking as well. bUt JiMmY iF kOsTin iS CAnCer sO iS wATsOn, hE BeAT uP hiS GiRLfRieND Watson was arrested at a Tennessee gas station after witnesses reported an alteraction between him and his girlfriend. The altercation began because the couple were on their way to a teammates wedding, and Watson's girlfriend was already so wasted that she didn't want to go anymore. Imagine missing your teammates wedding because your date is too drunk AND YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE WEDDING YET. Nevertheless, Watson, who was sober, admitted to responding officers that he "pushed" his girl and was thus arrested for domestic violence. That girlfriend afterwards issued an apology to the city of Nashville, stating that the entire incident was her fault, there was no domestic violence, and Watson had never abused her, and that she had a serious drinking problem. She later entered AA and Watson and she are now married. TLDR: I think we should sign this guy. How we work him onto the roster at this point IDK, but he said in interviews he's seeking a 1-way contract. It's not an ideal time to explore a trade either. I think Kasper and Edvinsson HAVE to start the season in GR. DCat - Larkin - Ray Tarasenko - JTC - Kane Ras - Copp - Fischer Berggren - Veleno - Watson Motte Chiarot - Seider Gustafsson - Petry Maata - Holl AJo Husso/Lyon/Talbot And that's our 23 man roster to start the season. Kasper and Edvinsson can come up and fill in as soon as the injuries kick in. We would be incredibly deep, and injuries would almost be a complete non-factor with the talent from GR we can inject in. By Christmas we will have a good idea of who want to move out, and what we need to bring in, whether that's outside help or clearing space for Kasper and Ed.

Jack Campbell has entered the player assistance program. Now I know what you're thinking. Why now? Why right when the season is about to start? You had all summer to get sober Jack! Well I'll tell you why. It's NOT because he wants to get paid to F off and do nothing for a few more months. It's because NOBODY gets sober in the summer. NOBODY. Everyone knows that. You're sitting by the lake... it's warm... the twisted teas come out... beautiful gals in bikins... they're drinking twistys too. Can we come on your boat and get twisted with you Jackie?? Then the next day you find out one of them was 16, so you guilt drink martinis. But theyre good martinis. Something a pro athlete can afford. Not that shaken crap. You'll bruise the gin! I'm not drinking bruised gin! So you stir and stir until it's 9 am and you already have that warm glow radiating off of your cheeks. You haven't even had breakfast yet! And before you can count the olives its suddenly preseason again! NOBODY. GETS. SOBER. DURING. SUMMER. Use the PAP. That's what it's for. I don't want to hear any of you mongrels say one negative thing about my man SOUP!

Thank you. I forgot this existed. Gives me chills everytime.

We have Gylander and Gage and Bednar and Lethemon in Toledo

Debrincat - Larkin - Raymond Tarasenko - Kasper - Kane Berggren - Danielson - Compher Mazur - Copp - Rasmussen Veleno Chiarot - Seider Edvinsson - Gustafsson Johansson - Holl Wallinder Talbot Cossa Lyon Would we even need to add to that lineup? Just save the money for the TDL and... take another step in the yzerplan

Bye bye Motte, Fischer, Maata, Petry, and Husso. Re-sign Kane and Lyon. Promote Kasper, Mazur, Danielson, and Wallinder. Maybe swap Cossa and Lyon between DET and GR. *tents fingers aggressively* "Interesting"

Yes

If we are looking to clear room for kids, the tradeable pieces with actual value are probably Ras and Berggren IMO. Ras has more immediate value. Berggren would be smarter to trade closer to the deadli e once he's developed more of a reputation in the league.

The issue is the lack of RHers at wing. I wouldn't want Danielson developing at RW, but maybe that's what we're doing? IDK The only RHed wingers on the Griffs are Mazur, Shine, and Seger... and Mazur prefers to play his off hand like Tarasenko and Kane, so in theory he should slot at LW. And there's a good chance Seger ends up in Toledo with the depth chart the way it is. So really the only natural RHed RWer on the team is Shine, and he's not even under contract with the Wings... Maybe the plan is to force Mazur to the right side? I have mixed feelings about that as well, but even if it is, there is still plenty of room for another RHed RW, like MBN, on that roster. With Danielson and Mazur forced to RW: Snively - Kasper - Mazur Soderblom - Dries - Danielson Rychlovsky- Lombardi - Shine Johannes - Hanas - Gettinger (LH) Bantle - Doucet - Seger

Kasper making it complicates the hell out of things. Adding him gives us a 24 man roster. So we have to cut 3 people. The most ideal is probably sending Edvinsson down and waiving Holl and Motte. Could waive a goalie, but that doesn't seem ideal. I think you want to rotate the goalies hoping that Husso and Talbot claim their rightful positions, then then we can be comfortable waiving Lyon. It would suck sending Ed down, but he's the only one with waiver immunity. If Kasper doesn't make it he's the clear #1 callup and should see plenty of action. There's really only 12 forwards ahead of him. So he'll play at first injury.

Chiasson released from PTO... I actually thought he might get a 2way contract and spend the majority of the year with the griffins. The Griffs are lacking in RH shots... could this mean the wings plan to assign MBN to the Griffins? With Kasper playing the way he has it I could see MBN taking his spot in GR. Findog also sent back to juniors. Unfortunate, but expected. He will tear it up for Kamloops this year, and then we will see him back in GR for the playoffs.

Adding a corner and another WR would be the tiddies It was outrageous how easily Geno was able to throw over the middle of the field.

Defense needs play a lot better than that going forward. But everyone on offense was solid. Wild game tho, it was fun to watch.

I like the sh!t chickens secondary. So I'm calling it right now. Dan goes ground game attack. Open some holes for Gibbs, have Gibbs run wide. Pound it up the middle with Monty. Get a field goal here and there. Then when we've lulled them into the trap, playaction to Jamo. He takes the ball deep, takes the top off the defense. Easy touch downs baby. Haven't beat these fuqqers in 12 YEARS. It's time.

And, if you allow me to pontificate, there exists an obvious pattern of a bad dog following a good dog, and vice versa. Sort of a "Bad times create good dogs, good dogs create good times, good times create bad dogs, and bad dogs create bad times." Dynamic, if you will. Therefore, logically, the dog preceding Holmstrom must be Sanddog. Sandstrom - bad good Holmstrom - good dog Emmerton - bad dog Glendog - good dog Edvinsson - interim dog during the dead dog era Finnie - good dog I'll continue to work on this history of dogs theory tonight during the lions game

While we are on the subject, who, in theory, was the dog b4 Emmerton? I'm thinking it was Holmdog. Retired right after Emdog joined the team. And Homedog had real dog like qualities.

WHOA. BRAKES. There can only be ONE dog. We have never had two dogs, and I'd sooner root for the laughs before I let this board break with 15+ years of tradition. OG Emdog passed the torch to Glendog in 2014. Glendog then passed the torch to Eddog in 2021, and that began the first dead dog era, where the roster was absent of a dog. Now that Eddog is FINALLY joining the roster officially, do we really want to strip him of his dog status in favor of another prospect? However, the DAWG (Detroit Athlete Who's GOAT) is traditionally a forward, and traditionally a beloved bottom 6 forward. Emmitt Finnie exemplifies those qualties to a T. Edvinsson does not. So is Edvinsson really only an interim dog? Will the torch pass to Finnie when he joins us in Detroit? Surely two dogs cannot coexist on one roster. There can only be one. Danielson and Kasper are with the wings against Pitt... niceeeee

Rude HBD Mike

You've actually convinced me with this post. I bow out.

If Copp is covering for anyone it's Dylan Larkin. I wouldn't call Dylan trash. With Copp taking the toughest matchups Dylan doesn't have to focus on shuting down elite 1Cs anymore, and can instead prey on weaker 2Cs. With Copp running the PK Dylan doesn't have to anymore, and can instead rest during the PK so he's fresh to go back out and score when it ends. What I like about Copp is he's a good teammate and soldier who's bought in completely to this system. He's not focused on the dip in his personal stats this deployment causes, he's focused on doing what's the best for the team. And its easy to see why he's willing to make that sacrifice when he speaks. He sees and understands the bigger picture of what's going on. Much like a coach. Do you wanna get sick stats and be a star, or do you wanna win cups? Copp is the later. On him having a coaches mind, he says things i wouldnt expect the average player to say. They asked Kane about Danielson and Kaner said he reminds him a lot of Bedard, the way he shoots and moves with the puck... A very nice compliment, but nothing that insightful. When they asked Copp about Danielson he said oh yeah he could play in this league, he's good, but he's only 180 lbs and he's going to get worn down and hurt. It would better if Nate got up to 195 lbs with his frame and then he would probably be an impactful player for ALL 82 games... thats how a coach or a manager thinks, not a player... he also talked about how hockey is a room full of guys all from relatively the same cultures and backgrounds. But when he played football his teammates were a much more diverse group, and that expierence benefited him in being able to mesh well with others. Again, a much more insightful and reflective thought than what 99% of players think to say. The guy has a good head on his shoulders and is probably someone you want with a letter on their chest.

*COPP HATERS TRIGGER WARNING* I love Andrews interviews. You can tell he's a student of the game, and a student of sport in general. He managed to make analogies to football and baseball multiple times in his last media availability. If you didn't know who was speaking, you would think it's a coach talking. His answers to questions are sobering, honest, and insightful. One can tell he was a multi sport athlete with a lot of different experiences. I'd bet money he will be coaching NHL hockey once his playing career ends. That's how his brain works. And his good soldiering continues. He mentioned that he's been asked to continue leading the Wings #1 shutdown line, and will again receive the hardest matchups. He also alluded to the fact that he already has good chemistry with his linemates. Which I take to mean the Ras-Copp-Fish line is staying together. Also In the same media availability Danielson talked about how the training camp and preseason this year was/is way more intense this year. This team is hungry. He also talked about how much he looks up to Kane and how much a confidence boost it is for a guy like Kane to give him compliments. Larkin is a great player and leader, obviously, but this is why you bring in future HOFers. When a future HOF talks that sheet hits different. And on the fun side, he mentioned MBN is the funniest guy he's ever met.

This has been on my mind awhile, and I think I'm just gonna say it. But let me preface this first by saying I love Poland. I probably love Poland more than the Poles do. As a boy I would summer in Gdansk, and now I often go out to eat at Polish Village Cafe in Hamtramck because it takes me back to that charming coastal city that I enjoyed so much as a boy. If you go, get the polish plate. It's a lil kielbasa, a lil pierogi, a lil stuffed cabbage... a complete tour of the eastern European comfort food we all grew up with. Better than anything the most well trained Parisian chef would give you. That said, the poles as a people are complete and utter scum. Thieves and scam artists. Not far removed from the gypsy race. Just look at Al Sobotka... a philandering drunk who never even learned how to use the bathroom. Disgusting nasty folks. Which brings me to my ultimate point: PATRICK. KANE. DIDN'T. PUNCH. THAT. POLISH. CABBIE. But I wish he had. I woulda said GOOD. That's for ripping off the good people of Buffalo NY for the last 62 years JAN. You ruined Buffalo, the last great American city, with your filthy Polish scams. Lets look at the facts: JAN WAS ILLEGALLY OPERATING A CAB. Which is very illegal in the great state of NY. A state that banned uber for 5 years to protect their cab industry. Furthermore, Jan didn't even have a drivers license. HE. DIDNT. HAVE. A. DRIVERS. LICENSE. Not only was he scamming and endangering the life of Patrick Kane, he was scamming the American people. Thumbing his big polish nose at the entire modern American interstate highway system. Why didn't he have a drivers license you ask? BECAUSE HE WAS A DRUNK. Jan had two previous DUI convictions... But the American judicial system doesn't apply to Jan folks... Maybe when he's wrongfully suing Patrick Kane it does, but not when he's out driving drunk in his illegal cab, endangering the lives of others. HOW. MANY. JOHNNY. HOCKEYS. HAVE. TO. DIE. BEFORE. WE. DEPORT. THESE. PEOPLE. His second scam of the night, after falsely posing as a cab to pickup victims, was attempting to shortchange Kane on the fare. The classic polish pay ploy. Ive seen it a hundred times. They render you a service, then claim to have no change, when you try pay for something with a large bill. And if you dispute not getting your change back THEY TRY TO SAY YOU ARE ROBBING THEM. It's a gaslighting scam FULL STOP. But Jimmy, it was only 20 cents, was it really worth the dispute? YES. It's about common decency. Don't come to this country to operate a cash business, and then act all surprised when disputes start because you won't provide change. ITS. A. CASH. BUSINESS. MORON JAN. Furthermore, eyewitness's stated that Jan LOCKED KANE IN THE CAR, so that he couldn't leave, which is what escalated the dispute. Oh, you want to imprison me? You want to kidnap ME? I WOULD HAVE CAVED HIS BIG POLISH DOME IN... lucky for us, and the Detroit Red Wings, Kane is a cooler character than me, and most Americans. A gentle soul if you will. After a brief tussle he was able to free himself from Jans crooked cash cab and fled on foot from his would be capitor. I cant imagine how scared Kaner must of been in those moments, fleeing in terror... And lastly, the only cash found on Kane when the cops caught up with him was a $5 bill. The fare was over triple that. So Jan got the money! Then falsely reported to police that Kane robbed him! TLDR: A polish criminal defrauded and entrapped Kane by posing as a cab, attempted to scam and rob him, escalated that to kidnapping when his scam didn't work, and then filed false police reports against Kane when he escaped. Jan should be in JAIL for life for his crimes that night, and for tarnishing Kane's name and brand with his false lawsuits. Kane didn't punch that cabbie... but I wish he had.

Gibson and ASP are two totally different styles, I agree. But there is only 1spot behind Seider for another top4 RHD. And ASP is pretty well pegged for that role. Gibson might turn out better defensively, but ASP is the blue line puck mover this roster desperately lacks. Eddogg and Mo will do the heavy lifting at defense. That all I said, I read that, at Preds camp, Gibson actually reached out with his stick and used it to push his defense partner into better defensive positioning lol kid will prolly be a good one.

Why is this Larkin-is-not-a-2C garbage stinking up this based Kane-pilled thread? Patty Daddy is now healthy AND had offseason training for the first time in YEARS. He's the silverback on this team and he's back to 2022 form. Larks said it himself at the media availability; when Kane stands up in the room and speaks the guys on the team actually STFU and listen. He's the GOAT and he's gonna lead this sorry excuse of club to a 2025 stanley mafuggin championship. Let's fuqqin go.

There's also the fortnite stuff, the same thing that got Laine into trouble. If you watched Walmans "day in the life" his daily routine was wake up, go to practice, pick up Chipotle on the way home, and then play fortnite the rest of the day/night. Ma fuqqa was eating Chipotle EVERYDAY, and spending more time on vidya than he was on hockey. And he literally does fortnite dances to celebrate his goals. When the media asked him about his fortnite dance after his 2nd griddy dance last year he literally said "add me on fortnite, im always on". Junior players are literally told by their teams to scrub their social media of any vidya references, because pro clubs see it as a distraction from hockey. In an interview Keith Tkachuk said his son Matt was staying at his house the night before a game, and he got mad because Matt had stayed up super late playing vidya... and his wife was like "well at least he's not out partying before his game" and Keith was like that almost made me more mad, cause if you're gonna stay up all night before a game, it at least better be for a good reason like you were getting drunk, having wild fun, and getting laid... but instead my idiot kid is wasting his night playing vidya. I think most of the old boys club probably share Keiths viewpoint. And id bet money Walmans Playstation was traveling on the road with him...