Jimmybigrigs69

Nah Forsling is their #1 stud. Watch the games.

Florida shopping Ekblad...

Reported that Detroit and Kane are still talking. Kane also talking to NYR. And Vegas is lurking. Says best fit and chance to win are his motivators. Wants some term and will not sign a bargain contract. My guess is he will sit back and see how UFA and trades play out in july. Once things settle a bit he'll choose a destination.

That all said... here is my current hope: SJS did NYR a huge favor by claiming Barclay Goodrow for them with nothing in return. Drury is in debt to Grier. Now that we have stepped forward to repay Drury's debts to SJS for him, his debt passes to us. We know he needs to shed salary, so they better be sending us something we want for cheap. Is that Trouba with salary retained? Idk. And idk even know if i want Trouba at this point... but this is about the last conspiracy that makes sense, so i hope its true for the red wings and yzermans sake.

The media are straight cowards if he's not grilled over and over about this trade. He's going to have to answer questions at the draft tomorrow so we'll see... SJS cant retain anymore salaries, they no longer own the 14th pick, and we haven't waived anyone. And GMs are saying they would have traded assets for him or claimed him, so he doesnt have a problem thats known league wide. This is starting to look REAL bad REAL fast. Not even trying waivers? Not even shopping him? The good explanation behind this better drop soon, because if nothing comes this is pure negligence and incompetence. I dont care how good you are at drafting, a general manager leading a staff and a team, cannot be committing such obviouly egregious actions. At least with the Federko trade, or Hollands contracts, Jimmy D and Ken can defend what they were trying to do. But I see no defense for this at this moment. And this will easily surpass the Federko trade as the worst trade in red wings history if something doesnt come to light soon. If i was chris illitch id want some very serious answers right now, because it looks a helluva a lot like the person i entrusted my business to is asleep at the wheel.

Despite the teams success this has been terrible year for management. >signing an anchor contract in Holl >trading for an anchor in Petry >buying out Yamamoto for Holland, only to give away the compensation in Kostin for nothing >giving away Walman for not only nothing, but a great a pick as well >the goalie carousel nightmare continues 5 seasons later and now he wants to fix with past his prime anchor contract in Gibson >cost us the playoffs by doing nothing at the deadline What did he do good? JTC? That's about it. Debrincat and Kane fell into his lap. And Lyon saved his ass in a big way. Fuqqing pathetic year for SY. There's no foresight or plan at all. If Walman wasn't part of the plan going forward he should have been traded at the TDL for picks, or we should have added more players and taken the cup run seriously. But now ur just trading him, along with valuable futures, without even shopping him or even trying to waive him??? I hope he's in Devellano and Illitch's doghouse right now. It's actual amatuer hour right now, and MUCH more than this is expected of him. Now that Holland is available again, bring him back as an advisor. Maybe two pigeon brains together will actually be able to put a plan together... or just hand the team to Horcoff or Draper or Lidstrom. This team was already under rebuild when he joined and now 5 years later still nothing accomplished, and making the same mistakes the last guy made. Its sad that every yzerslappys excuse for him is "well he had to undo all of Hollands crap rebuilding first" but if Draper took over tomorrow he would have the same excuse. If the draft and UFA are anything but GREAT there's going to be a lot of folks questioning Yzermans formerly stellar reputation.

Then why hasnt the 11 and 15 been swapped yet? The Yzerscam is looking real bad right now. Standing pat at the deadline. Giving up Walman, a 2nd, and Gibson for Kiiskanen... would hate to see the captain fired, but this is exceptionally bad work. This would be bad even for Holland...

Obviously Gibson was very highly valued by Nash to make this trade. I dont think the 2nd was included because Kiiskanen is bad, i think it was because Gibson is THAT good. Cause im liking Kiiskanens numbers and play a lot. But he's a potential middle 6 forward where as Gibson could be a top 2 Dman.

Well that theory is dead. Sabres now have the 14th pick

I don't really buy this particular "theory" at all. If it's true Yzerman is an idiot. It doesn't make sense to trade all of that to have say on 1 pick ahead of you. That player you supposedly want so bad at 15 could be gone at 13, 10, or even 5. If there is a handshake deal it makes way more sense that there's a 3way deal with NYR coming, or SJS has agreed to claim a contract on waivers that has an NTC. It's possible the Gibson trade is holding all this up.

Christ now Shapiro is reporting that, not only would other teams have traded something for walman had yzerman shoppedhim, but that SJS would have claimed him on waivers, and did not ask for the 2nd rd sweetener when SY offeredhim free, but happily took it. Walman better turn out to be a pedophile or something, because this way worse than Holland level.

Did we owe Grier for convincing Zadina to void his contract and join the sharks or something?

Servallli continues, reporting multiple other GMs were not made aware of Walmans availability and they commented they would have certainly sent traded assets for Walman. SCAM was a joke, but it might be becoming real if something doesn’t transpire with SJS in the next week...

He's not a fighter or even a powerforward. And he's average sized. He's a scoring winger that happens to have a big motor and huge compete level. His offense and skating look very good from what I can see. But from what I'm reading is the puck seems to follow him around the ice because he skates every shift like his life depends on it. And he will hem you into your own end with a nonstop forecheck. Like a Filppula who gives a s***

This Kiiskanen kid really sounds like an Yzerman type. And someone fans will love. Super high compete level and determination. Everything I read is not just like "good motor" it's like "twin diesal 10 cylinder supercharged motor that runs on bobby orrs piss". Relentless forechecker that will bowl over his own teammates to dive helmet first into an unsuspecting Dman. Kid might be alright.

Pretty sure Mark Stone was injured

Nvm SJ literally cant retain on anymore players, so its got to be that DAMN TORTERELLA

Pagnotta reporting we are indeed in on John Gibson. 1 other unnamed team is involved as well. Probably the Flyers trying to get a goalie... but maybe its San Jose helping to retain?

This tells me we are re-signing Christian Fischer and calling it an offseason

Nah I dont think we always do. But i think the fanbase collectively did on him bc he was logging big min with seider. SJS can continue to take dumps so long as they have cap and roster spots

Eddogg is unironically lazy and sucks. Call me when he does something.

The more I talk to other fans, the more im returning to earth on the Walman trade. We (detroit fans) overvalued the hell out of him. Called my Avs buddy, who knows seemingly every player in the league and then some, and he literally said "who?" when I brought up the Walman trade. Just cause he was Seiders partner doesnt mean squat to anyone else. He's a dime a dozen bottom pairing Dman like Hagg or Oesterle. And no one was going to claim him on waivers at his caphit. Furthermore, every team wants SJS to take on their cap dumps right now... and they only have room for so many of those. SY made sure he was first to the trough on that one. But he had to pay for it, and the Gibson deal was very good, and evened that out. This was indeed a cap clear and nothing more. But the good news is SY now has more room to make us better.

What was said? Working the phones like a mumbai call center?

At least the yzerscam is more aggressive and creative than the hollahoax. Every fan = "walman is our 2nd best dman, and he's young, no reason to move him" Yzerman = "lazy and he sucks"

Good rostered players right now: Seider, Larkin, Raymond Everything is currently replaced trash