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According to HF: 'Kopecky has great size, power and skills. He is the only prospect who could translate into a future scoring power forward as the Wings lack these type of players in their system.' That's why everyone is fed up with him, because he has loads of potential yet he doesn't deliver. I don't know how many more opportunities Kopecky will get with the Red Wings organization at this point. Kopecky has 3-1-4 and +3 in 9 games, and he's getting third line ice time. Valtteri Filppula in those same 9 games has 3-2-5 on the second line, and is a -1. Hudler has just gone nuts with scoring, and he's taken Manlow and McDonell with him. Hudler 9-12-21 +8/Manlow 4-8-12 +6/McDonell 1-10-11 +5

Get that bum Garcia out! Play Harrington!!

This quintessential starship captain's skills are enough to surpass that of any adversary he may encounter.

Stronger..faster..shinier and more expensive too....

It's like I said on draft Wings drafted a could-be blue chipper. This season with Andre Benoit out of Kitchener, Kindl is the team's top offensive defenseman.

Michigan will finish second in the Big Ten at worst. Pretty good for being terrible like people have said since they were screwed against Notre Dame. Imagine if they never had the injury issues they've dealt with? Hart, the o-line, the safeties all healthy every game...Michigan would be undefeated.

Kendall McArdle #7. Dan Collins #24. I'm sure McGrath was ranked much higher than his draft position would indicate. Hudler as well. peace Hudler was ranked in the top ten...number one center in the draft.

lol nice. Reminds me of a blurb in the freep... "Art Van Furniture will expand its Steve Yzerman line to 40 items. Naturally, Yzerman will center the line."

Never said I was perfect.. Bro-Im on damn near 3000mg of vicodin a day, cut some slack Vicodin..the good stuff!

Game over...nothing beats a ninja.

Yeah..(2005 Wings first rounder) Jakub Kindl said that one of the things he had to adjust to was the much faster pace of the OHL game as oppose to the Czech League.

I just have this feeling in my gut that the Tampa BS could cost us the division and a playoff spot.

I don't think Hudler has first line potential at all. Too small and slow. Secondliner at best. Still not sure he's an NHL calibre player at all. Something like 7B/C. Thing is if he doesn't make the top two lines he's practically useless due to his weaknesses. Kopecky has shown absolutely nothing. How you rank him a potential secondliner is a mystery to me. Looks more like a 6C to me. I doubt Liv will be anything more than a backup at NHL level. That is if he is signed at all. He doesn't strike me as the determined type. 6B. Tolsa is 24, which means he is still younger than Liv (turns 25 in December). Granted goalies need more time to develop, but the transition is also greater for goalies than forwards. I'd say that Tolsas improvement is beyond statistics. He's a very mature and intelligent player. I wouldn't necessarily say that his potential is much higher than a third liner, but he definitely has a greater shot at fullfilling that potential compared to others. Borderline 6A in my book. It would be a huge mistake not to try him out in Grand Rapids IMO. I agree on continuting Tolsa's development being a good idea. Bt I think you are rating the others based on where you think they are more likely to fall. Kopecky has the potential to become a top-two line player. It's unlikely he'll reach that potential fully. But he definitely has it and still shows flashes of it now and then. Liv definitely has starter potential...he would already make a pretty decent backup in the NHL. The question with him is can he make the transition between the different games, and will he even be brought over? Hudler's work ethic this season alone has elevated his stock in my eyes. This is a guy who was going out there the last couple years and basically half the time gign through the motions. Now he is working hard every game and he has added muscle, and it's paying off in a big way.

I think you're overrating Hudler, Kopecky and Liv. Especially Liv, there's no way he's 8C if Howard is 8B and McDonald is 7B. Tolsa might be underrated. Hudler at 8.0B means that he'll be from 7.2 (90%of 8.0) to 8.0, which is he will be a second liner or a first liner. Pretty reasonable. Kopecky has the ability if he reaches his full potential to be a solid second liner (7.5) and the C means 80%, so he could be anywhere from average third-liner to solid second liner. That's reasonable to expect from Kopecky as to what he'll reach in his career. Liv at 8C means he could be full-time starter caliber, or go as low as 6.4, which is a decent backup. Howard's 8B has him dropping no lower than 7.2, which is part-time starter (like Roloson) while Macdonald's 7B drops him to 6.3 at the lowest, meaning he would be at least a dependable backup and possibly a part-time starter. For completeness, Drew MacIntyre's 7.5C drops as low potentially as a 6.0, or dependable backup. Tolsa I was torn on. He's getting pretty up there in age for a prospect, and his signing deadlien is next summer. He is leading all Wings prospects in Sweden in scoring, which is a promising sign, but he is also 25 years old. He needs to take that next step with his game. I just didn't feel comfortable rating him as higher than a potential third liner given his lack of progress since being drafted.

Good rankings. I'll give it a better look later. But those are pretty good. A little high, in some cases. I pretty much agree. The few that stand out to me are the Bs by Abdelkader Bootland, and Kindl (I'd give 'em Cs at this point). Probably the C by Kopecky as well (D). peace Wow, I totally expected to get flamed on some of these. Then again...Barnesey hasn't seen my Kopecky ranking yet.....

Liv would have had a strong year last year but the lockout and his team's actions screwed him. He was playing on basically a minor league team against teams that had two lines of NHLers and NHL defensemen. HV-71 brought in Brian Boucher at one point--He did FAR worse than Liv with the same personnel. Liv should be on the Olympic team...Lundqvist is the only guy who would be ahead of him for the job. If he keeps this up--and he will--then he's basically guaranteed a spot. If the Rangers make the playoffs, Liv should have the starting job for the WC locked up. The only other Swedish goalies who might get consideration: Mikael Tellqvist Johan Hedberg Tommy Salo Daniel Henriksson Johan Holmqvist Liv is better than all those guys.

Lions will do better than 6-10. Came within a point of beating Carolina (preseason super bowl contender), and a BS reversal screwed them out of a win against Tampa (then undefeated, now 5-1). They should be 4-2 right now and tied for second in the conference behind Seattle's 5-2.

I think it was a mistake to not sign him after that great final he had for HV-71. I think he will be signed come deadline day next summer, and he and Howard will be the backup goaltender in Detroit and the starter in Grand Rapids.

do you mean as in "Of Men and Mice" or the duo from "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome" I just mean we have two Jiri's. One's huge and the other tiny. Kinda like Vlad the Impaler. I like those kinds of titles. Just a name and a descriptor. peace I prefer Jiri the Great to Jiri the Large. Kinda goes better with his ability, while still suggesting size. Or how about we go with.. Regular Jiri and Biggie-sized Jiri... No? See, I'm hoping both will be great therefore the "Great" would just be confusing. peace How about Jiri the Mighty?

do you mean as in "Of Men and Mice" or the duo from "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome" I just mean we have two Jiri's. One's huge and the other tiny. Kinda like Vlad the Impaler. I like those kinds of titles. Just a name and a descriptor. peace I prefer Jiri the Great to Jiri the Large. Kinda goes better with his ability, while still suggesting size. Or how about we go with.. Regular Jiri and Biggie-sized Jiri... No?

I like Jiri Hoodlum....

He is faster than Datsyuk, who led the Wings in scoring last season.