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    Zero goals vs "Has never been outmatched".

    Lidstrom gets beat and its swept under the rug. But if you bring it up, people reference his past performance. The fact is, you proved my point. The only player you had a problem with was Lidstrom. Rafalski, Ericsson, Kronwall, Lebda, Meech.. its a bit redundant don't you think?

    BRB, drafting Jakub Kindl, Brendan Smith and any other offensive defenseman from the Q who is 5'7 and 150lbs.

    It gets swept under the rug because it happens less to Nick than to anyone else. League wide. If you're the best defensive-defenseman in the league, you get a bit of slack.

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    All things being equal, based purely on cap hit, id rather have Stuart more than any other defenseman on this team.

    Lidstrom isn't a $7.45 million dollar player. Rafalski, despite DEM POINTZ, isn't worth $6.5 million. In the same sense Kovalchuk isn't worth $11 million to anyone but Atlanta. Ive got a feeling Holland was under the impression that Lidstrom was leaving last season or sooner when he signed Rafalski to his ridiculous contract WITH a NTC.

    Kronwall isn't better than Stuart defensively and outside of the occasional center ice hit, Kronwall isn't as physical. Kronwall is obviously more gifted offensively but not nearly enough to make up for his defensive lapses.

    In the cap era, you cannot spend $14 million on your top pairing and expect to compete.

    Based purely on cap hit I'd take Meech's sub-$500K over anyone. Cap hit plus the play out on the ice? Nick. No ifs, ands, or buts.

    The top pairing is the only thing keeping us respectable right now. Granted it could be around $8-9M and still be as effective (swap out Raf for anyone else), but thems the breaks.

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    Stewie's stats show a problem any shut-down defenseman's stats will show - he doesn't generate offense so his plus/minus suffers, and to make things worse he's often paired with sub-par offensive players thanks to the Wings' numerous injuries. The first half of the season, he was spot on. His plus/minus doesn't show it, but one stat doesn't tell the whole story. I'd wager a guess that he's one of the best on the back end if you measured his performance in goals against per minute of icetime. He took hard matchups consistently, dealt with whatever garbage linemate he had, and was the best damn PKer on the team.

    He's fallen off badly lately, however. Some criticism is warranted. He was a premier shutdown defenseman up until the last several games, probably the only guy consistently winning his battles and taking his assignments properly. Now he's in a downswing. Too bad that as Lidstrom and Rafalski make a push, Stuart is at a low point and Kronwall reinjured himself.

    It's always something... but Stuart will come back from it. All good players do.

    Not even close. He's better than E, but that's about it.

    Nick - 1.86GA/60T, 1.92GA/60ES, 4.00GA/60SH

    Raf - 1.95GA/60T, 1.94GA/60ES, 4.62GA/60SH

    Meech - 2.09GA/60T, 2.39GA/60ES, 0.00GA/60SH

    Lebda - 2.34GA/60T, 2.39GA/60ES, 0.00GA/60SH

    Nik - 2.50GA/60T, 1.97GA/60ES, 9.00GA/60SH

    Stu - 3.45GA/60T, 2.72GA/60ES, 8.57GA/60SH

    E - 4.33GA/60T, 3.80GA/60ES, 7.78GA/60SH

    Those are goals against per 60 minutes of ice time. Total, even strength, and on the PK.

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    Yes maybe "most" of them are pushing 220, but that's not the case with Machida and Silva. Their walking around weight is around 200-205lbs. The only time they cut weight is when they fight at 185lbs. Or the occasional match-weight fights, which are usually 190-195lbs. No matter how you look at it, Fedor is a thicker man, and almost 30lbs heavier. And even though Fedor has fought guys a lot bigger than himself, that still doesn't take away from the fact that it would still be a huge advantage if he fought Machida or Silva. Unless Fedor fought at LHW. Otherwise, a HW fight would be to the advantage of Fedor. Oh, and not one of those huge guys Fedor fought was a top 5 fighter in the world.

    You're out of your mind if you think Machida and especially Silva walk around at 200-205. Anderson has gone on record that he's usually 220 and above between fights. He's a big dude. Machida doesn't fight at 185 and I don't believe he ever has.

    Back when Fedor fought Herring he was top 5 and close to 30lbs heavier. Schilt was solid competition and 50lbs heavier. Hunt just barely in the top 10 and again 50lbs heavier. Sylvia was ranked top 3 when he fought Fedor 40lbs heavier. Sure Choi and Zuluzinho weren't much to worry about, but those guys in the 250-280+ range were quality wins.

    He was good at one point in time yes. But Sylvia's game was already starting to go downhill before he fought Vera. The fight right before Vera was against Couture (who is almost a foot shorter than Sylvia, and not even close to Sylvia's reach)and Randy didn't just beat Sylvia, he completely embarrassed him the entire fight. Then Sylvia went on to beat Vera. And that's not saying much. Vera had quite the losing streak going before he just recently snapped it (and even though Vera snapped the losing streak, he still looked like a mediocre fighter in that fight). And that my friend, was Sylvia's last win in MMA until he recent beat Jason Riley (bum).

    And then Couture went on to lose to Brock and Nogueira (looking far better against Brock than the Brazilian). Maybe, just maybe, Brock hasn't seen much competition to hold that belt. If a 46 year old that's 50lbs smaller and was coming off of a year long layoff is your stiffest competition maybe you shouldn't be ranked quite that high.

    It's not that a scrub held the title, it's that MMA is just like any other sport in terms of losing the level of play you once had, even if you still had it just a few years prior. Need I remind you that Sylvia lost to Ray f-ing Mercer? (and it wasn't in a boxing ring) Just like any sport, all of the sudden talent just starts to fade a bit. Some guys drop off quicker than others, but you get the idea.

    Even though Arlovski WAS on a 5 fight win steak, his game has arguably dropped further than even Sylia's. The last time Arlovski fought like the "elite" Arlovksi was Dec '06 against Cruz. His next fight after that was a fight that he looked just okay against Werdum. Then after that, he fought guys that will NEVER be considered elite: O'Brien, Rothwell and Nelson. So forgive me if I'm far from impressed with those 3 victories. Then as soon as Arlovski actually faced another "elite" fighter (Fedor), he gets his ass handed to him. Since '06 the only way Arlovski will get a win is against guys that are not top level.

    Arlovski would beat Brock. Handily. Brock would get torn apart standing by one of the quickest striking HWs out there. And Andrei is savvy enough to keep it on the feet. Brock doesn't have the handspeed to do what Fedor did to him. Not when Mir got the best of him standing.

    I'm not saying Fedor is scared of the entire crop of UFC heavyweights. I'm saying he's scared of Brock Lesnar only. And that's saying a lot considering Brock is the current champion. What lead me to that conclusion is the fact that Fedor knew damn well why Dana wanted him in the UFC. One reason and one reason only. Fedor Vs Brock. So Fedor decided to ask for a ridiculous amount of money (a hundred million bucks) knowing Dana would never accept. That was Fedor's way of saying, "I'm content fighting the guys here, I don't wanna come over to another organization and get immediately run over by Lesnar." And I'm not even saying Lesnar would actually beat Fedor. It just seams Fedor thinks so.

    And there is no doubt (unless you haven't watched Sylvia and Arlovski throughout their careers) that their game was nowhere near their peak when they fought Fedor. So I'm far from impressed by those 2 Fedor victories.

    That one reason, is that Dana can finally say the UFC has the best HW out there. Not having Fedor is a black cloud over the most prestigious division in combat sports, the heavyweights. As a promoter you want to have the best fighters to promote, and he doesn't have Fedor. As for why Fedor was willing to hold out for large sums of money, he doesn't need tp sign his life away to the UFC to further his legacy (it's not about money or Brock Lesnar, but about control over his life/career). He's already the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Not fighting Brock Lesnar (he of the almighty 4-1 record) isn't going to change that.

    Seriously, look at Brock's credentials. Beat a scrub (after Choi wasn't cleared to fight). Lost to Frank Mir in under 2 minutes. Beat Heath Herring by riding him like a pony for 15 minutes. Magically gets a title shot at this point. Beats a senior citizen. Beats Frank Mir. That's it. Fedor signed up to fight Barnett (an exponentially more well rounded fighter than Brock is) and then joined an organization that features the best HW striker and best HW grappler in MMA. Barnett or Overeem would be the UFC champ if they fought in the octagon (the last time Josh fought in the UFC he was the UFC HW champ). I guarantee you if Dana called up Fedor's management and proposed to let the two fight as a one-shot deal with no strings attached Fedor would be more than happy to oblige. But Dana won't do that. He won't allow his champion to be beaten without owning whoever beat him. And that's why Fedor won't sign with the UFC. He saw first hand how Dana jerked Couture around when Randy wanted to set up a fight with Fedor. Emelianenko won't allow himself to be put in that situation where Dana controls his career.

    As you probably already read up there, that's not what I've done.

    I must have daydreamed the Ray Mercer mention...

    Oh I beg to differ my friend. His name is Brock Lesnar. A specimen Fedor has never dealt with. No one as big as Brock can move like Brock. Period.

    Let Brock flesh out his resume a bit before we canonize him. Lesnar has never had to deal with someone like Crocop who is a lethal striker. Or Nogueira who is a magician on the ground. Let alone Fedor who is a master at both. Takedowns and hammerfists can only get you so far. What happens when Brock is put on his back? Does he know how to do anything down there? What happens when someone rocks him? What sort of instincts take over? What happens when he sees his own blood all over the place? Will he panic and get caught by something else? Takedowns and hammerfists are the extent of what Brock has shown us. Brock has a whole hell of a lot more to worry about facing Fedor than vice versa.

    I will admit that sometimes Machida and Silva wait for the other guy to strike first (that is annoying as hell). But they are complete packages in terms of BJJ, Judo, Karate, striking power/quickness, and both are deceptively fast.

    And Fedor isn't? No one is as complete and as good at all the elements as Fedor is. And no one is smarter in the ring. Never flustered. Never frustrated. Has an answer for everything.

    And keep in mind, I think Fedor is very good. In fact I do think of Fedor as one of the best in the world. I just don't think it's such a cut and dry conclusion that Fedor is the most dominant considering who Fedor has fought lately. Silva's list of recent victories is staggering (Nate Marquardt, Dan Henderson, Patrick Cote, Thales Leites, Forrest Griffin). And none of those fights left a scratch on Silva. Plus, Silva's next fight is against Vitor Belfort (Fedor's next fight is against Brett Rogers,lol). And Machida just destroyed Thiago Silva and Rashad Evans. Those lists are 10 times more impressive than Fedor's last few fights. We already discussed Sylvia and Arlovski. How about before them? Well get ready to laugh and reassess your stance: Choi, Lindland, Mark Hunt and wait for it.....Mark Coleman. :lol: Sorry man, but that list isn't even close to as impressive as Silva and Machida's (especially Silva's). When considering who they have fought lately, this is no contest.

    I guess we have differing opinions on the matter (obviously) as I don't think Silva has beaten anyone of consequence since Henderson. The judges are still out, IMO, on the quality of the TUF era of UFC fighters. They become big names, but are they really as good as their popularity? I don't think they are.

    Pound for pound the best mixed martial artists in the world RIGHT NOW (not in the past) is Anderson Silva with Lyoto Machida a close second. So actually you're right, they aren't "Fedor good." They're better (if were talking right this very second).

    Again, put them in a ring/cage with Fedor and see who wins. The size difference is negligible.

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    That's Anderson at roughly 215-220.

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    This is Fedor at exactly 230. In his jeans.

    I'd say there's a 5lb difference in frame/musculature and a 5-10lb difference in fluff. Factor in that Anderson has a 2" height/reach advantage and it's a wash.

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    :blink: 10-15 lbs??? Yeah right dude. Machida and Silva are 205ers (Silva even fights at 185 sometimes). Fedor was almost 235 in his last bout. So try doubling that total. 30 lbs would be an INSANE advantage in an MMA fight. Whereas height isn't nearly the same level of an advantage (Machida is only 2 inches taller than Fedor, Silva is only ONE inch taller than Fedor). So either Fedor has to go on quite the diet, or Machida and Silva better start hitting Mickey Ds or something. Otherwise that fight would never happen in any MMA organization.

    The other main difference is Fedor hasn't fought nearly the best fighters in the world lately. You actually used Arlovski and Silvia as examples???? They aren't even half the fighters they were 5 years ago. Have you not watched them lately?? Not to mention Fedor was scared to come to the UFC and get destroyed by Lesnar. He refused to join the UFC unless Dana White gave him 100,000,000 dollars. Which of course Dana White just laughed and said yeah right.

    No doubt about it, pound for pound Machida and Silva are the most dominant in the sport. The only real beef I have with them is they stupidly won't fight each other even though they're not related in any way. They're just "good friends." What a lame ass excuse for not fighting each other. But if they ever do, would be one of the best MMA fights ever.

    There is an ever so slight difference between weigh-in weight and fight time weight. Most "205ers" are pushing 220+ when they actually get in the cage. Fedor is usually 230 or so. 10-15lbs. And most of that difference is padding, not muscle. He's a tiny HW. Guys his size fight LHW. And some that aren't good enough cut all the way down to 185. Should they ever meet at HW it's 50/50 that Silva or Machida would come in heavier as they wouldn't have to cut water weight and likely would bulk up a bit. Like when Wanderlei Silva fought in PRIDE's Open Weight GP. He was heavier than CroCop in their fight. There is no significant difference between small HWs and LHWs, apart from the fact that the small HWs don't feel the need to cut weight for a competitive edge.

    As for 30lbs being a huge advantage for an MMA fight. Sure, but that's an advantage many of Fedor's opponents have had over him. He has fought guys, 10, 20, 30, 50, even 100lbs+ heavier than him. Can't say the same for the two guys you're pimping.

    Sylvia's 3 fights prior to fighting Fedor were 2 title fight losses and a win over Vera. So, either Tim was still at the upper echelon of the UFC HWs or the current title means next to nothing as a complete scrub held it a little over 2 years ago.

    Arlovski was on a 5 fight win streak. Three within the UFC and then Ben Rothwell and Roy Nelson with Affliction.

    If you completely disregard the level those two were at at the time the fought Emelianenko you're opening up a HUGE can of worms with regards to the current crop of UFC HWs (which apparently Fedor is ducking) not to mention pretty much any other fighter. Trying to come up with arguments about these guys using evidence of what happened AFTER they lost to Fedor is delving into the absurd. Especially since not too long ago these guys ruled the UFC HW division.

    Who are the best fighters at HW? Once you come up with a list, use the same standards you used to discredit Sylvia and Arlovski so you'll realize just how shallow the UFC's HW division is. The best fighter Dana has at HW is Big Nog. Dana is likely going to cling as hard as he can to the loss to Mir (with a torn MCL and being hospitalized during his training camp with a staph infection) to prevent Nog from getting a title shot. Because if Minotauro ever does, Brock can kiss his arm goodbye. And then Dana is stuck with a HW champ that Fedor has soundly defeated. Twice.

    Fedor doesn't fear Lesnar. He doesn't fear anyone, otherwise he wouldn't have signed with an organization that has Alistair Overeem as a champion (he's currently one of the top 5 or so HW strikers in the world and expected to do well at the Dec. 5th K-1 World GP Final) and Fabricio Werdum who is the two time defending ADCC HW champion (ie best grappler in the world). There is nothing in the UFC that Fedor hasn't seen and beaten before. And there is nothing he won't see outside of the UFC either. Barnett, Werdum, Overeem, etc... are all fights available to him outside of the octagon.

    As for Anderson and Machida... they're great fighters (when they actually want to fight and not dance). But they're not Fedor good.

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    We're not talking about several years ago. We're talking about right now (at least I thought we were). In which case, Silva or Machida would have to be considered "most dominant" in the sport.

    Put either one of them in the ring/cage with Fedor and see who is most dominant. And neither are much smaller than Fedor is. 10-15lbs at most with both of the Brazilians being taller and with greater reach. Wins over Sylvia and Arlovski easily stack up to wins over Griffin and Evans which pretty much highlight Anderson and Machida's recent activity.

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    I agree with everything on that list except Fedor. No way he is the most dominate in the sport. He has to prove that by fighting the best. Try replacing Fedor with Andersson Silva. Then I agree with the list 100%.

    Nobody in MMA has done anyting remotely close to what Fedor has done. Next best would likely be Nogueira, but Fedor owned him twice.

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    I have no idea, but I assure you I'm aware that everyone is going to play with everyone.

    The correct answer is never. Babcock has never put them together at the start and has only gone to it as a sort of "desperate times calls for desperate measures" late in a game and then a string of games where they do stick together.

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    Federer has actually been beatable lately. Unfortunately, no one seems able to step to the plate and actually do it. Post-injury Nadal?

    I don't think most of the women on the tour have the mental fortitude to beat Serena.

    Unfortunately the tourney's been over by the time I get home in the eves. Hopefully they will start having some night matches and I'll get some more tube time in this Holiday weekend.

    I'd say go Roddick, but after watching him grasp defeat from the jaws of victory at Wimbledon, I won't go there....

    That's more than a little bit unfair to Andy and to Roger. That was without a doubt the greatest match Andy had ever played. He was absolutely brilliant. He set a Grand Slam record by winning 39 service games (consecutive I might add). He just had the miserable luck of running into the greatest tennis player ever that was every bit as good that day. 16-14 in the 5th set? One service break after 4 and a half hours deciding the match? Ridiculous...

    As for the US Open... Clijsters has done the women's game a great favor by beating both Williams sisters. And a massive "haha!" at Serena's meltdown.

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    I agree with the thread starter. Machida Vs Silva would be EPIC. Brock and Fedor would be awesome as well, but light heavyweights are so much more exciting to watch. Two huge guys like Brock and Fedor would just not be as exciting in my eyes. Both would be amazing fights. But Machida/Silva would be the fight of the century.

    Fedor is a small to average sized LHW. 6' in shoes and a chubby 225-230. If he went easy on the ice cream he could trim to a basic 205-210 and then cut to 185 for a weigh in and not lose much if any muscle mass. But a ripped Fedor would be weird and probably a bit scary to see...

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    Can anyone explain why other teams cant put offer sheets to him if he file for arbitration? :S

    Because the rules say so. Basically arbitration is saying, I want to sign with the team, the team wants to sign me, we can't come to an agreement. So they bring in a neutral 3rd party to come up with a number for them.

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    To be fair, that was during a power play.

    And? Where was Hudler for the only goal the Wings scored in game 6 of the Final?

    It wasn't long ago that Babcock praised Hudler for going to the net routinely. I believe he listed Homer, Franzen, and Cleary as the only Wings that go to the hard areas in front more than Hudler.

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    That or find guys who aren't afraid to swim in the deep end of the pool (aka the other end of the ice where the opposing goalie is at) - maybe we can get a few of those "ugly" goals that tend to win big games in the playoffs.

    Anyone remember the series clinching goal from the 1st round? The details are a bit hazy...

    A bit more to roll around in the ol' noggin.

    hudler.jpg

    Hudler has never ever been afraid of the opposing crease.

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    Could someone kindly tabulate the top playoff goal scorers since the lockout and figure out who sits at say... the top 2 spots?

    Thx!

    No one? Geez... now I'm going to have to whip out my trusty abacus.

    Let's see here... carry the one... Would you look at that!

    #1 since the lockout, one Henrik Zetterberg with 36 goals.

    #2 since the lockout, one Johan Franzen with 29 goals.

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    :lol:

    Larionov was a Hall of Famer and a great centerman on our team.

    Hudler is s*** compared to Larionov, even when Igor was in his early 40's.

    Igor's HOF career has almost nothing to do with what he did in the NHL. Igor was pretty much a 40-60pt player in the NHL. Igor was a solid middle 6 scorer for the Wings. Good enough for 2nd line duty, but did most of his work from the 3rd line and 2nd PP unit. Thats where Jiri is now. And where Igor was slowly but surely declining, Hudler has been, and will be improving for a few more years as he enters his prime.