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Okay, the white one is okay, but the blue ones are hideous!! What's the deal with the half-blue/half-white sleeve?? It looks like they ran out of blue fabric. :puke: And is that a seam or a pocket on the lower half of the sleeve above the wrist? The only good thing is, no baby-poop yellow sweaters!!!

I absolutely HATE the number on the front of the jersey!!! :flamingmad:

No one is talking about talent level here...it's about a market's ability to support a team. However, if you have a good, talented team you have a better chance of building a solid fan base. But even having a good team doesn't necessarily equal success. I think that was one of the points of the article...Nashville was one of the best teams in the NHL last season, leading the central division - and the league - for most of the season. But they still couldn't put butts in the seats. Then there's Anaheim, that also shows you can have an extremely talented, championship-caliber team and still have very few people give a rat's fart about them. Winnipeg was a small market team with a small but very loyal following. I hated to see them move but I know it was necessary for the survival of the team. I think it is the same way with Nashville - if the franchise is to survive it may have to move. Bettman has put teams in non-traditional markets...some have worked, some haven't. Nashville is one of those that hasn't.

I have no problem with hockey going into non-traditional markets, as long as it's a location where a team can prosper. I agree about Las Vegas...I think it would be a great place for a team. However, I don't agree that Anaheim, Carolina and Tampa Bay are good places for hockey just because they won the Cup. All that means is they had good teams. That doesn't necessarily mean they have a good fan base. I mean, barely 15,000 people showed up for the Cup rally in Anaheim...that didn't even fill their arena. Expansion into non-traditional markets is fine, but you've got to have the fans.

I don't remember hearing anything about a suit - why were they being sued? Or were thery doing the suing?

Answers.com says he is living in Michigan with his wife and daughters...no mention of what he's doing for a living these days. Is the restaurant he started with Dave Lewis - Joe and Lewie's Penalty Box, or something like that - still open?? I think it was in someplace like Fenton or Fowlerville. I never got there.

Sorry, I nearly peed my pants laughing - SHARKS WITH LASER BEAM EYES!!!

It's just the Wings web peeps being behind in their jobs...nothing to read into.

Well, that sounds like a definitive answer!!!

I don't know how much he's like his dad - he's a forward - but here's a blurb about him from WXYZ-TV's report from the prospect camp - Link to the whole piece - WXYZ reports from prospect camp IMO it sounds like he just needs to get a little more experience and gain some size. The USHL will be a good place for him to do that. Besides, it never hurts to have your dad giving you advice on hockey, especially when your dad is Chris Chelios.

Yeah,, that's their name...lol Don't quit your day job, Mac.

I wouldn't mind Mac coming back...if he can still play and if he fills a need for the Wings. I do not want any former Wing back here if he does not fill a current need. This is not some feel-good nostalgia tour...that's what the Wings' Alumni Association is for. This is a business and the goal of the business is to win the Stanley Cup. You either contribute or get out of the way.

Oh that is NOT a good visual...

I heard the Wings gave Dean his daddy's locker. Kinda cool! They interviewed him the other day on TV - it was wierd seeing a Wings sweater with "D. Chelios" and "64" on the back. Maybe he'll be drafted by the Wings and Chris can play long enough so Dean can play with his daddy. LOL

It's not working for me either...I haven't been able to access it all day. And I have no idea how to change a DNS server...

That's because the red and white game on the 28th is NOT the official Red Wings Red and White game. It is the annual Red Wings World members game and party. Only members can purchase tickets and the only way non-members can go is if they attend with a member.

The red and white game mentioned on Red Wings World is the annual game members play against each other, NOT the official Red Wings Red and White scrimmage game, which is typically at the end of training camp. You have to be a member or a guest of a member in order to attend both the game and the party afterward.

Two words - IT'S EKLUND! Fuhgeddaboudit!! Why people continue to read Eklund's drivel is beyond me!!! Any one of us could be just as, if not more, accurate by throwing darts at a dartboard. Or picking names from a hat. Or using a Ouija board. He's a joke.

Backpedaling. You title your thread "Wings worst off season in years" then conclude your original post by saying we might as well hand the Cup to one of the other teams...what do you think we're going to do? Seems like you jumped to a few conclusions of your own with regard to the Wings in your original post. All we did so far is get rid of dead weight (Calder, Lang, Bertuzzi),signed a younger, better version (Rafalski) of a player we lost to FA (Schneider), and re-signed probably the best goalie in the league today (Hasek). Not bad for the first week of free agency. Yes we have some holes to fill, but do you really think Holland is going to just sit on his hands for the rest of the summer? There's a long way to go to October and the start of the season. A long way. Everyone - not only Steve Z, but everyone - needs to just chill and relax. The sky is not falling and Ken Holland and his boys in the front office know what they are doing. Have a little faith, people.

Here are a few of my favorite Stevie pics - This is from last year's locker clean-out day...Stevie's last. But he looks happy. I love his smile. Another smiling one...this is from the press conference announcing Stevie as the GM of Team Canada earlier this year. This is from about five years ago, during the 2002 playoffs. He just looks like he's having fun.

Team leadership?? I dunno. This picture makes me laugh...it reminds me of a former boss I had. Her lobby was covered in photos of herself with various celebrities, although from the way the pictures look you can tell she just popped her head into the photo just when the photographer was about to take the picture. The picture is definitely better Babless....you've got the past and future of the Wings.

Team leadership?? I dunno. This picture makes me laugh...it reminds me of a former boss I had. Her lobby was covered in photos of herself with various celebrities, although from the way the pictures look you can tell she just popped her head into the photo just when the photographer was about to take the picture. The picture is definitely better Babless....you've got the past and future of the Wings.

It was a very sad day, but not unexpected...I think a lot of us thought it would have come sooner. I sat on my sofa, and the tears just flowed. But I was happy that Stevie got to go out on his own terms, not be forced out because of injury or like so many older athletes, hanging on until their skills are so diminished they are shells of their former selves. He could have played another season as a part-time player, but he didn't want to take a roster spot from a younger, deserving player. He knew his knee wasn't going to get any better, and that he wasn't going to play any better. Sure, he'd had bursts of brilliance during the season, in which we thought (and maybe Stevie thought) the old Stevie was back. But at 41, just how many more of those bursts did he have left? How much longer could his knee hold out and let him skate with minimum pain and discomfort? Those were the questions Stevie had to ask himself and the answers inevitably led to his decision to retire. He wanted to do what was best for the team, and that was stepping aside and handing the reins over to Nick Lidstrom (whom I think we all knew that, as soon as Stevie retired, would be the next captain. Worst kept secret in sports last summer). Steve embodied class and professionalism, that's how he played his entire career and that is how he handled himself at the press conference, and later at the retirement ceremony. The NHL will likely never see someone like Steve Yzerman again.

This happens all the time, not just on these boards but on every Wings board I post on - every summer at the start of free agency, we don't sign some player(s) that someone thinks we should, and the sky is falling!! The Wings are not going to get out of the first round unless we get Joe Schmoe, or a Joe Schmoe-type player!!! They're too small!! They don't have enough grit!! We need a pure goal scorer! We have too many finesse players!! And then there's the trade deadline - the sky is falling!! The Wings are not going to get out of the first round unless we get Joe Schmoe, or a Joe Schmoe-type player!!! They're too small!! They don't have enough grit!! We need a pure goal scorer! We have too many finesse players!! Then some of us will come on, and say, relax people. Ken Holland et al knows what they are doing. There are plenty of players the Wings could go after, yadda yadda yadda. And someone else will come on and say, where's your faith? You call yourseves Wings fans? Come on, get behind your team! Sometimes I wish I saved some of those posts and just change the player's names from season to season, cuz it's the same song, different verse. And the song is called Whine, Piss and Moan. But then what would we do in the off-season? LOL

Four million??? Wow, Burke way overpaid!!! He's definitely not worth that much! I applaud Kenny for not giving in and paying that. I'd be pissed if he did. In that case I say, good riddance Bert!