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No you don't get it... a kid that cheated to get offense, which was his calling card... is drafted mid-free fall by a hapless scouting staff. This one-dimensional player is then asked to invent a defensive game... he tries, gets marginally better defensively and the offense dries up. Zadina is being exposed for what he is a complementary winger with a good shot, who needs his teammates to do all of the heavy lifting if he's going to be an offensive threat.

He's a 2nd/3rd liner tweener on a decent team. He's not a star and won't be.

Our reality is that the draft has given us top end talent on a slow path of development. Seider and Raymond will be fantastic players BUT they are draft year +3 or 4 type guys. Our "luck" in the lotto means we've not been able to get draft year or draft year +1 type guys. The 2017 and 2018 drafts are what might have been drafts, I don't think we'll have many or any of those guys on this team when we're competitive.

Then we should purge Larkin, Grissom, Stall and who ever #4 is.

Just had a wacky idea... would this make any sense? To EDM: Mantha & Bernier To DET: Neal, Koskinen and 2x 1st + 2nd rounder. OR Neal, Koskinen and Ethan Bear, 1st + 2nd rounder. The salaries are about the same, BUT we take on term with Koskinen... we take 2 bad contracts and upgrade both active players for Edmonton and we get futures... do we get enough? The picks would likely be late in each round... Thoughts?

He's basically just added filler while we wait for prospects to mature... they are more of less "insert name here" kinda guys, who with any luck we can flip for something even a 4th+ round pick before they leave as UFAs.

He's really disappeared since he signed that big contract, makes me wonder if Anthony Mantha is really Russian "contract year" superstar Entoni Manthov!?!

Well it happened to Smith... was our best player one night, in the AHL the next night.

I'm sure he'll be demoted ASAP LOL.

It's not uncommon for a player to pass through waivers and still have trade value as a value add or due to improved play, signs of promise, etc. Which is exactly my point... he's an asset we are completely mismanaging... he should be playing somewhere AHL or NHL in order to gauge what we have OR as a showcase to bolster his trade value. Sitting in Taxi-Squad purgatory isn't accomplishing that. or anything really.

#BustyColdZadina

At 32, if we we're to resign him... 3 years max term. 1.25 max dollars at 3 years. I'd be more inclined to go 2 years at 1.5 per season. Falling in love with and guys like this is exactly what's hampered the rebuild here... fat contracts for easily replaceable players.... We are overflowing with recent examples.... Abby, Samuelsson, Ericsson, Cleary, etc, etc. let someone else over pay for underperformance. On an unrelated note... WTF are we doing with Svech. At this point are we actively trying to destroy any trade value he may have? Not to mention any chance he may have at an NHL career... The guy needs playing time somewhere, for the love of god he's got to bring more to the table than a scrub like Frans Nielsson. Let the guy prove it.

With all due respect I think that it comes down to homer bias, not calling you out, but fans in general... we know the players and observe these players with the same sort of objectivity parents view their children with. They are ours, so we value them beyond their objective worth. I'd trade Glendenning in a heartbeat and I feel we can get another player with a similar profile in FA, heck we may be able to get the same player back in FA and add a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick in the process.

Meh, we can get a new reclamation project in FA this summer... sell high on Ryan. Glendenning is a 4th liner... therefore I'm indifferent to his presence.

I thought our poweplay is our enforcer? Comparable players can be had on the cheap in FA. I'd moved virtually everyone on this team st this point.

Nah don't know him.

@krsmith17 how's Zadina looking so far this season? Are the nets filled yet? Asking for a friend.

That's a classic NHL solution isn't it... acknowledge that your current system screwed a team multiple times (surprise, surprise Detroit) then go out of your way to "fix" that problem with a solution designed to F@#$ that same team and it's fan base in a new and exciting way. I love hockey and the Wings, but I'm barely hanging on... if this scenario were to play out, I think that would finish off my fandom.

How glad are we that the Wings didn't trade for him a couple of years ago like some folks here advocated for. https://www.tsn.ca/video/ferraro-erik-karlsson-s-contract-is-an-anchor-with-a-capital-a~2139396

I'm guessing this is to make him taxi squadable.

What are my bad takes? Zadina? Larkin being a 2nd line center asked to play a 1st roll on a bad team? I think you'll find a lot of people share those takes... A take you don't agree with isn't automatically bad

Realistically we should protect fewer players than we're allowed and invite Seattle to take a second pass at our unprotected players. We don't have many ED eligible players worth keeping.

@krsmith17 and @ChristopherReevesLegs have an on going feud... that's about it.

Calling people dummies because they see through your BS eh. Very endearing.