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Of course you'd argue, that's your default setting... however Vernie was right there numerically with the guys of his era and was out conn smythe winner. He also played against those stacked Oilers teams more than say Patty Roy... his numbers are as good or better than guys like Fuhr. If Vernie wasn't elite he was what every comes just before it.

Mike Vernon is the most underrated goalie of his era, he should be in the HOF. I'm with you on Osgood though.

Thank god we have that rigged draft lotto to prevent teams from tanking... https://www.nhl.com/news/blackhawks-crawford-ruled-unfit-to-play/c-317401792

Good talk.

I was referencing Shawshank.

With the current "leadership" in the NHL the Wings getting screwed is a foregone conclusion.

I think the Vancouver pick is lottery protected... Well since we got screwed in 2020... https://detroitsportsnation.com/2021-way-early-nhl-mock-draft-red-wings-selecting-no-1-ranked-prospect/apowell/detroit-red-wings-news/07/07/2020/228671/

It'll take 20 years, a poster and narration by Morgan Freeman...

I have a theory that @ChristopherReevesLegs and @krsmith17 are two competing personalities trapped in the same body and use the same device to unknowingly argue with each on here.

^^^Literally all of this! We need so many picks that the league can't work out how to f*** us in the lotto. The only UFA we should sign is a goalie... and at this point it might as well be Howard, or Ayers (remember that guy) why not? Just a warm body to spell off Bernier.

What I find interesting is just how many of us expected it... not just that we would drop, but drop the max. I was telling the guys at the golf course this would happen in early June and they thought I was nuts... I handed out the "I told you so's" lol

Keep dreaming... we're way closer to a rebuild reset than being a rising team. At this point we have to commit to stripping it down; going the UFA route only makes us average.

You're more positive than I am... I think the drop to 4th has really hurt this franchise and IF that is combined with an already good team within our division getting the 1st pick that's going to really hurt. IF Toronto gets that pick for example, it gets them out of cap hell... they get a star player on an ELC and can trade a player or two for futures, extending their window.... not to mention we play teams within our division 4 or 5 times a season. Seeing Lafreniere in a visitor jersey 4 or 5 times a season would be such a kick in the nuts.

People may interpret this a a good thing but for me it's a huge RED flag... it screams late 90's/2000's Oliers good old boys club to me.

Leaving the bait on the line... NICE