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Looking at the list of available players and of course not knowing what side deals are in place, it's entirely possible that Vegas may have a better defence that we do. I'm a Mrazek fan but the logic may be that they see a cheaper option in Coreau. Also, he seems to fit the new mold for goalies he's big, Mrazek not so much.

This is all well and good... but let's go back to the beginning... my original post to which you rudely replied... I, in no way said kids aren't called up. That may be what you projected on my post but it is NOT what was written. Their was no false narrative... Bumpy's reply projected the notion that I said we don't bring young players up. That is not what I posted... it may be what he/she incorrectly inferred I was thinking but the post doesn't allege that at all. I did say that we should get some of these guys (specific) on the roster to cut costs (they are cheaper than Helm, Abdel, Glendenning) and that it may change the culture of the team (which seems stagnant to me). That's not a false narrative and certainly not the narrative Bumpy was going on half cocked about. See above about the faulty assumption your first point is based on. You make a good point about Crosby and Malkin, you could also include Guentzel.

What happened to this board? How is it a false narrative? We have a bunch of overpaid middling players that can and should be replaced with younger, cheaper, middling with some upside. If you disagree fine, but the over the top melodrama is a bit much. It's looking more and more like genuine discussion between fans has been replaced by gotcha backhanded commentary.

Who pissed in your corn flakes?

I totally agree... we need to get some of these guys on the roster to cut costs and change the culture of the team. It's too bad they are blocked by older, expensive versions of themselves. Look at the contributions Pittsburgh got from a few fresh legs from their AHL team.

I was reading an article on tsn or sportsnet that suggested Edmonton, specifically Draisaitl may be a prime target for an offersheet. I'd love a bold move like this to get a high end player and shake up this roster.

This sounds like "FAKE NEWS"....

Signing Shattenkirk for more than 5 million and or for more than 5 years would just add to the laundry list of poor, bad, or aweful contacts on this team as handed out by KH.

At this point I think a lot of pepole would rather not commit big term and dollars to an older UFA... see what our kids can do, evaluate, but not jump on the first UFA we can get like Neilson last season. http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-detroit-red-wings-1.754664

Shattenkirk showed he's not "the guy" these playoffs... he's a good piece, but not a linchpin. Someone said solid 2nd pair guy and I agree! For what he'd cost versus what he brings I'd avoid him at all costs.

Easy now..... Peter Mansbridge is a national treasure. The Homers that do the Bruins games on NESN make my ears bleed... Edwards and someone.

Edmonton also plopped each of their top picks directly into the NHL. I get frustrated with how overly cautious the Wings are with young players but the old Edmonton way setback some of their best assets by years.... in the case of Yakopov it may have ruined the kid entirely.

Is that the best you can do Branch, maybe your TROLL skills are fading.

No you're Branch... through and through. http://dreamworks.wikia.com/wiki/Branch

Move on Branch.

Thanks for proving my point (again) Branch.

You're the most dogged Troll I've ever seen.

Assuming Team USA, wants an American coach... the options are slim. Most likely they want an NHL coach, familiar with many of the likely players. The coach's team must be out of the playoffs. AND The coach just want to take on the job... what other options out there fit the first 3 criteria... off the top, Bylsma, Hynes, Rowe

It sounds like someone's stopped believin'

Am I remembering correctly that the draft lottery for teams that miss the playoffs happens before round #1? It seems to me that's how I remember it from last season but I wasn't playing close attention since we weren't in line for a top pick.

It's in the water. Duh. We'd better slow our roll on the wins or our pick may not be as high as we all want it to be.

Generally speaking... rugged players from the west. I've not changed my argument.... heart and will to win are paramount... I did mention other factors such as culture and environment (within which rink size can be inferred, which you did and went on to say I didn't mention explicitly...) DK is making 750k less than Dougie Hamilton. Having looked that up on capfriendly reminded me how many average or mediocre players we have locked up to term and dollars. Not unique to the Michigan linked players but no discount either.... which is the point I've been making had you been following along and not arguing for the fun of it.

It's a message board not a memoir... I don't type everything that enters my mind while I'm posting. If you want to frame your agreeing with me as some sort of win by insisting you told me why I was right then have at it... I didn't say place of birth was a predictor of skill. You said that and projected it falsely on my position. I've gone out of my way since the beginning to indicate I would take a Canadian player of relatively equal skill over another player from _________. I did forget and it wasn't worth the effort going back on my phone to look. When I could simply comment again on that aspect of the post which you consistently don't acknowledge. Which, I assume, for an argumentative individual like yourself must mean that you tacitly agree but want to argue about language and other peripheral nonessentials rather than acknowledge the core point. We have players on this team massively overpaid in dollars and term with those Michigan connections which means no real hometown discount. It's a factor not the only one, I'm not worried about NHL players jobs. They make gobs of money to play a game... they don't need defending.

I didn't "admit" anything and it's not asinine... all things being equal why wouldnt you take the kid from the top hockey nation. You must be a lawyer or politician by trade with your talent for twisting what people say. Yes rink size was on my mind.... it is after all where the game is played (you may not be aware). Truthfully I'm not sure what language I used about the pay of some of our Michigan scrubs... but that does not change the fact that Abby and Glenny are paid too much for too long for what they are, with DKs regression he may back his way onto that list also... management can't be blamed there though. Which blows a mile wide hole in the hometown discount notion.

Posters are welcome to disagree, but that's how I'd go about it. To put it in context... I'd take Crosby in the crunch over Ovechkin. I'd take Marchand over Kane if I needed a goal in the last 5 minutes in a do or die game. You're welcome to disagree... but it doesn't change my opinion nor does it make my opinion wrong. All this draft talk may be a waste of time if we keep winning games... this reminds me of the leafs of old... once the playoffs are out of reach win some games and pick 12th, then repeat.