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Am I the only one wishing we'd do something "splashy"... our steady as it goes mentality has been successful but I'd love to see a big trade involving the wings... you know a multi player or multi team deal... some spice.

For those folks blaming Howard and saying we should get a new goalie... lets stop for a moment and go back in time to about what 93... I seem to recall Osgood gaffing it up against the Sharks we were supposed to win walking away. My point is not to bash Osgood but to say we can't give up on Howard this early. However, I am very ready to give up on Ericsson, that guy needs to disappear and soon.

His career would read like that of Patrick Lalime, Chris Huet, or Dan Cloutier without having played on powerhouse Wings teams.

Don't lecture me about being a true fan. I'm a fan of this team and have been for nearly 20 years. I hope the team wins but I hope Osgood fails. Being a fan doesn't mean you blindly accept or love every player in an organization or decision an organization makes. Your definition of fandom exists in two places your mind and the hearts of Leaf fans. I was here... reading you prattling nits assure everyone how Osgood was the reason for the season. Truth is he had a run of games where he wasn't the overwhelming reason we won or lost, which is the best that overblown 2nd stringer has ever been able to in his career. Also good to see another Islander on here. Despite or differences in opinion.

I'm a Red Wing fan not an Osgood fan... he can get torched and we can still win no? I believe whatever hole Osgood digs us into Howard can get us out of...

I'd love to see Osgood get torched in this game... so we can finally stop seeing posts from the few remaining fools who think he should be starting in the playoffs.

It's Jimmy or bust Osgood is done. Note: These words WILL NOT come back to haunt me in any way shape or form.

Hi Folks, I've read a lot of post complaining about taxes, weird on a hockey forum but whatever. I'm a Canadian Wings fan and I can tell you we are much more heavily taxed than our friends directly south. I can use my own pay for example, in a two week period I earn 2025 dollars and my take home pay is 1280 in that same two week period (not all of that is tax pension and other deductions are factored in). I'm very comfortable with that though, the public services my tax dollars pay for are very, very good and well worth it. Basically it boils down to the "tax and spend Liberal" vs. the "borrow and spent Conservative"... In the end no matter what the method you gotta pay the piper. GO WINGS GO

Given the quality of play we've seen from Osgood and his reported frustration with a lack of playing time, is it possible he may retire/ask to be traded? Or could the Red Wings look to trade or demote him? Consider that he is scheduled to make 1.1Mil with a cap hit of 1.42Mil and assuming he doesn't play much more/better this season (playoffs included) would it make sense from a team perspective to clear him off the books and target a new backup who could do the same job for less money? Examples from this season Yann Danis or Michael Leighton who each make roughly 60% less than Osgood would next year.

Last year in the playoffs he wasn't terrible night in and night out.... he wasn't bad enough to lose a game on his own. Which for Osgood is the most he's ever been able to give in his career. He's won cups as an adequate goaltender, not a bad deal really. But I dare say like so many before him time has erroded what limited skill was there.

Chris Osgood SHOULD feel humiliated his complete lack of even adequate play lead to him losing his starting job to a rookie. (period)

What rumours dish, DISH... I love a good rumour and I'm out of the loop on this!!

On the back end I'd love to see either Volchenkov or Kurtis Foster... Up front Colby Armstrong. The likelyhood of any of these guys in a Wings uni is remote however.

I think the savings from a lateral move with regard to the back goalie position would be a good thing. At this stage Osgood is purely a back up and a backup of equal ability can be inked for 500K less a year. That's 500K toward a resigned or new FA.

On a related note.... CROSBY DOESN'T STOP!

Jesus those grapes are sour!!

As a Canadian, I'm a Crosby fan for the next 2 weeks or so... as he helps Canada go for gold.

If this were true it would be an excellent trade for the wings... Horton is a beast! and keep in mind you have to give something to get something

I'm watching the Pens/Caps game not and Pierre mentioned that when we traded for Lang we sent Flichman (sp) and a 1st which turned out to be Green. Whis is this relevant? Well the way I look at this if at the trade deadline we could deal any or all of Raffi, Stuart, Cleary, Draper and Osgood for 1st round picks we accomplish a few things... 1) we see how the Miller's, Kindl's etc do in the show when the job is theirs to win or lose 2) we potentially drop a bit increasing the chance of a higher draft position or we make it to the playoffs with a young scrappy team and 3) we free cap space for solid off season signings. Add to this the UFAs we may or may not resign we could have a lot of cap space available for signings or trades. Also you're new core of Flip, Zetterberg, Dats, Franzen, Kronner and hopefully Lids remains intact. I really feel the supporting cast has let us down this year so why not get out from under their contracts and retool?

Clearly you've not noticed that Babcock has no confidence in Osgood... Osgoof won't see the playoffs unless Howard completely meltsdown.

Osgood is washed up accept it, and move on. Last years playoffs were his last gasp.

I like this!!

Osgood has no rebound control issues you're right, the first shot is usually in the net.

People praise Howard because he's played well... as for making excuses, thats an Ozzy fan exclusive, not that you'd know anything about that given your post