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I'm sure if it was a pressing need he'd get us one, like last year when we could use another right handed center and he picked up Lang, or this year when we needed more speed and he picked up Cleary ect.. A power foward would be fantastic, but it's not a pressing need yet.

I just have one thing to say again, Scotty Vines is out best WR, and that's, pretty f**king sad.

Why did Cleveland get rid of Garcia then laugh at us for picking him then? Wanna explain that? Is TRENT DILFER that much of an improvement?

who cares? garcia isnt an improvement, or hell, i'll throw you a bone, he isn't ENOUGH of an improvent to salvage ANYTHING.

How many passing touchdowns does Garcia have? Garcia is a LATERAL movement from Joey, there is ZERO difference. They both are INCAPABLE of winning games consistently. Garcia doens't have T.O. anymore, Garcia is a below average quarterback, just like Joey.

I doubt he'll ever play there again.

So, do you believe that team chemistry does nothing?

I don't think there's any chance they'd do that, Lilja and Mowers have little to no trade value and Hudler doesn't warrent that much of a return. In the new NHL, Jiri Hudler could get back along the lines of a high 2nd round low 1st round draft pick.

I don't have much to say but, Jeff Garcia is Joey Harrington who can scramble. I saw nothing that put me at ease with Garcia at the helm that Harrington hasn't done while he was here. Harrington throughout his career has put us in a position to win, just to throw an interception or take a sack or whatever to blow it. Jeff Garcia is no improvement, and just as a further point, the god awful Houston Texans beat the Browns today, so the win last week meant little.

First off, I really haven't made any comments all season, I've said that Harrington has been playing like s**t, it's not like I'm here apologizing for Joey or anything. And Garcias first game was against the Cleveland Browns, Dan Orlovsky would've won that game, and we still only managed 13pts and ZERO passing touchdowns, Garcia hasn't thrown a passing touchdown all season and he's an improvement? I, for one, don't care if Joey Harrington ever plays another down, but don't piss on me and say it's raining. I'm not kissing any QB's ass in this town until they win a playoff game at the VERY LEAST, I'll say, wow, he had a great game, but I'm sure as hell not gonna jump on his bandwagon until he does something. Because as of now, all Garcia has done is win a game that any QB would've won, and lost a game that he should've won to solidify his starting position, he's done nothing yet, and yeah I know, if Roy was in or if C-Rog was in blah blah, good QB's win games with what they have. Joey Harrington and Jeff Garcia are not good QB's, Jeff was at one point, he isn't anymore. If he proves me wrong, fine, but it's the New Lions, same as the Old Lions.

Sorry man, but f**k that, if Joey Harrington was in the game yesterday and pulled the s**t that Garcia pulled the fans would've burned the stadium DOWN. If Garcia is only 70% he shouldn't have been playing, we would be in exactly the same place if Joey were in. Seriously, he made Joey-like mistakes the entire game, the only thing Garcia has over Joey is that he makes some things out of nothing, but who cares? The end result is the same. Garcia is not the answer, he's not a step up, he's a step to the side, he's 35 years old, what is the next move? Personally, I'd fire Mooch, fire Millen, at this point another shake up is needed and if the coaching isn't the problem, we need to trade our entire offense away.

I really think it depends on injuries, and/or the play of guys like Cleary and Mowers.

I don't see Datsyuk ever being traded.

They've wanted to in the past, he's usually the player that people offer up the most on HFBoards.

Those were the Carolina announcers dude

No kidding, I have NO idea why they put a RB in the backfield on those plays, have a f**king empty backfield so he doesn't have an option.

I wasn't making excuses for Harrington, and you know what, if Johnson is our best receiver, good lord, are we in A LOT of trouble. That statement right there makes our team even look more pathetic.

Actually f**k it, put anyone in for QB, I'm with you Tim.

No it isn't.

Nope, can't do anything when pretty much all of your recievers are hurt, the offensive line gives up like 7 sacks and our QB decides to just check down it all the time. And it also doesn't help when our play calling and offensive coordinator decide to wait until 30 seconds left to pass it down the field.

Welp, Joey comes out, makes two good throws, gets in a little rhythm, and Mike Williams fumbles. Harrington, our line, our running game, our coaching, our play calling is horrid. We're a poor mans Baltimore, with a worse defense and a worse offense.

I'll give you Tampa Bay, but Baltimore was a joke, they could've put Houstons offensive line in there and they would've looked good. Any offensive line would thrive when the defense gets 15+ penalties.

We have like, the 2nd worst offensive line in the league, right ahead of Houston.

The Defense has been great, but if I've learned anything from Baltimore is that you can have the best Defense in the league, but without an offense who can move the ball, they're almost useless.

Seriously, how is Harrington supposed to do anything when he has no time to throw the ball, no time to let his recievers get open, and even when he has time his recievers don't get open anyway. So frusterating.