Heaton
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Mick said Hossa had 7 shots this game...He actually had some good plays in the offensive zone when the game got into it. But other than that, Hossa is his meal ticket as of now.
Kopecky looked pretty good today and had some nice chances. But some people are going to see what they want to see no matter what happens.
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So tell me, why aren't you worried, the team has looked like something the cat dragged in last couple of games.. when is the improvement gonna take place?Ever heard of the term "mid-season" form? Now I know english isn't your first language but the word mid is short for middle. It's going to take more than 1 game for the Wings to be firing on all cylinders.
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The longer we persist with the current lines the better off we'll be in the long run.Yeah no kidding. Let's blow up the entire lineup 2 games in? Yeah that doesn't look like the Wings are panicking at all.
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THE SEASON IS SAVED MY FRIENDS
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Because this is a message board where people constantly debate things over and over. This isn't like some contest where one party wins and the game is over. There are no winners or losers here, we're just arguing.It's either this or arguments about whether Sammy really sucks or not. Just pick your poison.
That's not really true, there's only losers in debates like this and I'm standing on the top of the mountain.
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http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/...y_and_Wojo_Show
- Kenny mentions flexibility a lot and having to trade a defensemen in a matter of weeks.
- Addresses the kids who got moved down to GR and Aaron Downey's status.
- Holland said he told Darren Helm that the Wings have big plans for him and that he'll have a long career with the Wings. Believes that it's only worthwhile to have Helm up if he's one of the top 12 forwards.
Lots more stuff too. Give it a listen.
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Im sorry but Zetterberg should remain on the top line PP line......You cant put Zjesus on the second line... just crap
The Wings don't have a 1st line and a 2nd line they have two 1st lines. They also don't have a 1st unit and a 2nd unit, they have two 1st units.
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http://redwingscorner.blogspot.com/2008/10...-play-time.html
Hossa-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Lidstrom-Rafalski
Hudler-Zetterberg-Franzen
Kronwall-Samuelsson
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They survived by enduring the indignities their star players suffered. Whether one believes this impacted their confidence and ability to forge bonds as a team to overcome adversity in the ensuing postseason is where I'm guessing some of us part ways.It's not that some people part ways, it's that the debate becomes frivolous since it's impossible to determine if that was the case or not. It's a fantastic debate to get your post count up since there's no real facts or evidence to prove or disprove it.
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Most teams have a tough guy or two so it's not like Downey is a sure fire thing to be claimed off waivers.Yes, I'm annoyed by this move. I'm not going to argue with anyone here about it anymore, though. If you don't think having Downey benefited the team during the 82 game grind last year, okay. I disagree.
There's zero chance Downey gets claimed, there's better enforcers that got waived despite Downey's claim that he's a top 5 enforcer in the game. It's fine to be annoyed by the move but I know you're smart enough, BlueMonk, to realize that just because player A isn't on the roster to start the season doesn't mean player A won't be there at some point. This had more to do with cap issues and the "problem" of having too many good players and not enough roster slots. For some reason people see a player getting waived and they view it as a death sentence and he's gone forever. Downey knew the deal and everyone else should've as well when he signed a two-way deal.
It's either start trading or losing players now or KEEP EVERYONE and have some NHL players start in the minors. Big friggin' deal.
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Mike Babcock raved about Leino's skill, and there's no question he'll be with the Wings sooner or later this season.
"This is the best player I’ve been involved in sending to the minors, I can tell you that," Babcock said. "He’s got a nose for the net, goes to the net, dominant on the cycle, makes great passes. He’s a Red Wings type player. Leino, I think he's going to be a scoring machine."
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The shortsightedness when these things happen never cease to amaze me. Downey will not be in GR all season so the overreaction is unnecessary.
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So with Helm in the AHL, downey on the waiver-wire, D-mac on the IR; what line does Leino play on? I'm hoping 3rd line if Homer isn't off opening day roster with an injury, but if homer is injured I wouldn't mind seeing him on the top line =)Datsyuk's line if Holmstrom isn't in, but there's no way Homer won't play.
He'll stay the 13th forward and get spot duty.
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Well what do you expect then? None of the other guys are playing. And sorry it says "it appears Leino has made it" but thats a clear sign that he did make itIt says to me that if Holmstrom is injured Leino will be the one to take his place. It may appear that way but it's better to err on the side of caution until official announcements are made.
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That's not what this says.
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Even though that best defenceman didn't even play half the playoff games last year? Or even though he will be gone next year and Quincey could well have developed into a very solid NHL defenceman?Quincey wouldn't be here next year anyway.
Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Lebda, Lilja, Meech, Ericsson. Where does Quincey fit in? They'll all be under contract.
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Yeah, but those components are going to more that likely be in Grand Rapids, not Detroit.To start the season. We all need to get out of this habit of thinking that who's in on October 9th is going to stay the same all season. While they may not make the team initially, Holland and Babcock didn't bring Downey and especially McCarty back to not get them into games this year. You're fooling yourself if you think they won't get at least half the season (possibly combined) in the lineup or exactly how many games Downey had last year.
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They've gotta keep room for a 46 year old with a busted knee.My thoughts exactly. Keep the best defensemen, not the youngest. Quincey played himself to 10th on the depth chart, no room for #10 defensemen.
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Not sure I understand. Downey and McCarty are on two way contracts. It doesnt make sense to be on a two way contract and have to clear waivers.CBA Article 50.9(g)
(g) Minor League Compensation. Neither the salaries nor signing bonuses
paid to minor league Players shall be counted against a Club's Upper Limit or the Players'
Share. For a Player on a One-Way NHL Contract or a Two-Way Contract with a Minor
League Salary and compensation that could be earned in excess of the following
amounts:
2005-06: U.S. $75,000
2006-07: U.S. $95,000
2007-08: U.S. $100,000
2008-09: U.S. $100,000
2009-10: U.S. $105,000
2010-11: U.S. $105,000
2011-12: U.S. $105,000
the following rules shall apply:
(i) To the extent the Player does not require Waivers to be Loaned to
a minor league affiliate, he can be freely Loaned and Recalled; and
(ii) To the extent the Player does require Waivers to be Loaned to a
minor league affiliate, he cannot be Loaned or recalled without
first clearing regular Waivers, and then cannot be Recalled to the
NHL parent Club during the same League Year without also
clearing a new Re-Entry Waiver procedure, pursuant to which the
Player can be claimed by another NHL Club for fifty (50) percent
of the contract's remaining amounts to be paid, with the balance to
be paid by and charged to the waiving NHL Club (both amounts to
be counted against each Club's Upper Limit, Actual Club Salary
and Averaged Club Salary, and counted against the Players'
Share); and
(iii) For a Player on an AHL contract with a Minor League Salary and
compensation that could be earned in excess of the applicable
amount set forth above in this Section 50.9(g), who signs an NHL
SPC for the same season with the AHL team's NHL affiliated
Club, the Player must first clear the new Re-EntryWaiver
procedure, pursuant to which the Player can be claimed by another
unaffiliated NHL team for fifty (50) percent of the SPC's
remaining amounts to be paid, with the balance to be paid by and
charged to the original NHL affiliated Club signing the contract
(both amounts to be counted against each Club's Upper Limit,
Actual Club Salary, and Averaged Club Salary and counted against
the Players' Share).
The Re-Entry Waiver procedure will not, however, be applicable to
Veteran Minor League Players defined as follows: (i) for goaltenders, Players who
have: (A) played in 180 or more professional games in North America (NHL, AHL
and ECHL), and (B) not spent more than 80 NHL games on NHL roster over the
prior two (2) seasons or more than 40 NHL games on NHL roster in the
immediately prior season; and (ii) for defensemen and forwards, Players who have:
(A) played in 320 or more professional games in North America (NHL, AHL and
ECHL), and (B) not spent more than 80 NHL games on NHL roster over the prior
two (2) seasons or more than 40 NHL games on NHL roster in the immediately
prior season.
10/11 GDT: Red Wings 3, Senators 2
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Yeah a 25 second shift is all the evidence we need!