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Here's what we know: 1) Vladdy's medical bills are being paid for by the limo's insurance company. 2) Fundraisers were held for at least two years following the accident. Anything else is pure conjecture on our parts. Fetisov has no proof of anything, there is nothing online that's recent, no one here lives with Konstantinov and no one here is Mike Ilitch. We're all welcome to our opinions and gut feelings, but that's all they are at this point. We shouldn't lambaste anyone without having a shred of something concrete to go on.

From the Wings website written in 2009: (During the civil suit against the car dealership that sold the limo to Gnida’s employer, Konstantinov’s trial lawyer argued that the dealership was negligent because the seat belts were inaccessible. After 90 minutes of deliberation, an eight-member jury ruled in favor of the dealership.) Konstantinov received a share of a $2 million judgment from the limo owner’s insurance carrier, which under Michigan no-fault law is also paying his medical, rehab, and residential care expenses.

I understand everyone's frustration, but the fluff posts are getting out of hand. As a reminder: II. Basic Forum DOs & DON'Ts · DO post constructively. If you can't add anything meaningful to a discussion, don't bother. Also, while germane to this game, please post reffing observations in the thread created for it so we don't have identical concurrent discussions going on. Thanks!

The Winter Classic alone generated 20-30 million depending on which source you quote - did they miss that?

I understand the impetus, believe me, but let's not turn this into a relocation/contraction/who-deserves-a-team-more thread.

I lived in California for 5 years. Had Sharks season tickets. I know very well what I'm talking about. I'm back in Michigan and have been for decades. Whether you prefer either has nothing to do with this conversation. And to everyone who's telling everyone else what to think or that their opinion is ridiculous, knock it off. You don't have to agree, but you DO have to be respectful. If you can't do that, don't post. Someone's opinion is not wrong just because you don't hold the same one.

If it's snobbery to think a red carpet at a hockey game is ludicrous, then I'll gladly embrace the snob label. It was turned into a circus and a place to be seen rather than an opportunity to enjoy a hockey game. Don't you think you're being a little overly sensitive? And where is anyone ragging on a team? I don't understand your comment about the Kings. I say if they want to play an outdoor game, great, we'll be happy to host it for you. Come on over.

I turned it off when I saw the red carpet. Seriously? I wasn't going to add to their viewership totals. Does anyone know how the game went? I know the Ducks won, but was curious how the ice held up and who won the best actor award.

Just waiting to see the team take the "ice" wearing sunglasses.

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames3m Per Ken Holland, #RedWings will have Johan Franzen back Sunday against Florida. Last played Dec. 15 (concussion).

Sweet hockey gods, it feels DAMN good to win comfortably in regulation. Almost forgot that feeling.

Let me preface this by saying that was a nasty puck to the knee and I in no way take any pleasure from that whatsoever. I feel for Emelin and sincerely hope he's okay. That being said, this was in my Twitter feed and I had to laugh: Winging It In Motown ‏@wingingitmotown2m Kronhobbled

And back to the game, please. 3 deleted posts from a GDT = suspension. Some of you are on 2.

No problem. Yeah, everyone got off track. I kinda thought a page and a half disappearing would give folks a hint, but apparently no one noticed. You might think that, but not really. Especially not with the 100 other threads with the exact same conversation going on. No need to repeat the same thing in multiple threads.

I'm really kinda tired of deleting off-topic posts from here. This is a thread about injuries, not lines, not whether Babcock is a good coach or not, who should sit, etc. There's at least the GDT to discuss this in, and more than likely a couple of other threads as well. Let's keep this to injuries, please. Any more off-topic posts will *sigh* be deleted and the offending member suspended. Thanks.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive1m Other lines at the skate: Nyquist-Zetterberg-Abdelkader, Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco, Miller-Glendening-Eaves. Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive2m Based on how they're skating it looks like Bertuzzi might be scratched. Datsyuk and Franzen are skating but not ready to play.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive13m Jimmy Howard on the ice in full gear working with goalie coach Jim Bedard as Wings filing onto ice for skate. Howard not ready to play yet. Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive6m Howard is facing shots, which obviously is a good sign since he said on Tuesday his knee would be re-assessed in a week. Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive13m Andersson (lower body) skating for first time in eight days. Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive2m Based on how they're skating it looks like Alfredsson is back tonight, on line with Helm and Cleary.

"An off the netting and in enterprise" - With all the injuries and lost one-goal games, it's very difficult for me to believe that we're in 5th place in our division, but just like "The Goal", I'll take it..

There's no crying in hockey.

Tread very, very carefully with this topic. It's already borderline, so don't push this into political discussion territory, please.

Not exactly. Kocur didn't sign on until 96-97.

Okay, can we bring this thread back to injury updates and not lines, please?

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive37m Daniel Alfredsson (lower back inflammation) said he feels better and hopes to start skating in next couple days. Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames1h Jonathan Ericsson expected back Wednesday when #RedWings host Blackhawks.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive2m Helm confirms he is in tonight.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive2m Wings on ice for morning skate. Helm is skating with Tatar and Miller. Helm might be ready to return tonight in place of Emmerton.