Majsheppard

Glad I didn't take a day off, this was a boring day apparently.

Just got in from work... Widemen seems to be the most interesting move of the day... That is rather lame. Washington might have improved the most today. Penner is a stupid move. All that given up for another similar winger to what they already have... I would have made that trade for Hemsky but not Penner. This guy is constantly overrated and is described as an inconsistent power forward by The Hockey News. Seriously, he is like a larger Hudler. It makes me think we could get more for Jiri if we were to trade him.

So he will be a Wing then.

I forget who said it... but someone said we should wait until the off-season for Zach. This makes a bit of sense, because right now the question is what will make the team better in April and May. More defense is what we need the most, but honestly will Zach bring an improvement in that short term? All the chatter here seems to be pretty spot on, we don't know. What we do know is right now the deal could be something along the lines of Hudler and Kindl. I hate to say this but, the depth scoring of Hudler might be more important. In the long run this trade is a no brainer. We have three players in the farm that are clear cut improvements over Hudler. If we throw in players that might be decent in the NHL we can push that number to six to nine player that could take his roster spot. Realistically only one of which could even step in right now and play (Mursak) and he is a downgrade. Miller would most likely take Jiri's spot in the short term, and that is a downgrade overall. My question is, if Zach came here, in the short term for this season who does he replace? Salei or Ericsson right? Is Bogo an upgrade over Ericson, at least to a greater degree than Hudler is an upgrade over Miller? If so, would it be worth the costs? Would Bogo even get regular playing time? Would it be possible to send him to GR for playing time and would that do him any good? We would lose Kindl, which I think in the long run will be an okay defenseman. Yet he will be in the same mold as Ericsson and therefore I think expendable for an upgrade. I do think Bogo is an upgrade because he provides what we lack, and would be an instant fixture on the PP with a right hand cannon. Personally, with Emmerton, Mursak ready to go. Tatar and Nyqvist following soon; and Jarnok and Teemu after that, why wouldn't you sacrifice Hudler? The answer is because they aren't here now when Lidstrom is and the cup is within grasp. I am a proponent of this trade, and if it happens I won't complain. However, Holland and Co. must realize that all of these Ifs and question marks above add up to a possible short term weakening of the team, and a probable long term strengthening. The deadline is for making the teams who can win stronger in the short term, and the bad teams stronger in the long term - Not vice versa.

I forget who said it... but someone said we should wait until the off-season for Zach. This makes a bit of sense, because right now the question is what will make the team better in April and May. More defense is what we need the most, but honestly will Zach bring an improvement in that short term? All the chatter here seems to be pretty spot on, we don't know. What we do know is right now the deal could be something along the lines of Hudler and Kindl. I hate to say this but, the depth scoring of Hudler might be more important. In the long run this trade is a no brainer. We have three players in the farm that are clear cut improvements over Hudler. If we throw in players that might be decent in the NHL we can push that number to six to nine player that could take his roster spot. Realistically only one of which could even step in right now and play (Mursak) and he is a downgrade. Miller would most likely take Jiri's spot in the short term, and that is a downgrade overall. My question is, if Zach came here, in the short term for this season who does he replace? Salei or Ericsson right? Is Bogo an upgrade over Ericson, at least to a greater degree than Hudler is an upgrade over Miller? If so, would it be worth the costs? Would Bogo even get regular playing time? Would it be possible to send him to GR for playing time and would that do him any good? We would lose Kindl, which I think in the long run will be an okay defenseman. Yet he will be in the same mold as Ericsson and therefore I think expendable for an upgrade. I do think Bogo is an upgrade because he provides what we lack, and would be an instant fixture on the PP with a right hand cannon. Personally, with Emmerton, Mursak ready to go. Tatar and Nyqvist following soon; and Jarnok and Teemu after that, why wouldn't you sacrifice Hudler? The answer is because they aren't here now when Lidstrom is and the cup is within grasp. I am a proponent of this trade, and if it happens I won't complain. However, Holland and Co. must realize that all of these Ifs and question marks above add up to a possible short term weakening of the team, and a probable long term strengthening. The deadline is for making the teams who can win stronger in the short term, and the bad teams stronger in the long term - Not vice versa.

This trade is most likely dead.

I think the trade is dead, so maybe it doesn't matter.

Here is more proof that talks occurred, yet nothing went down... Near the bottom.

If you get the best player it is a good deal, especially when you have so many prospects to give up.

Fresh off Twitter. McKenzie tweets. Hearing FLA trades McCabe to NYR for Tim Kennedy and 3rd rd pic. Looking for confirmation.

Pretty good actually. He put the puck on the net a few times but skated like a 40 year old who missed a bunch of games. Still faster than Bert and Homer combined.

Too many people on an internet thread thought alike on this one... Therefore, by internet law, the idea cannot be a good one. Ruthers Law.

Now he should be valuable enough to trade for something.

Maybe Huds play tonight has ended the trade possiblities. Or perhaps Hudler and Kindl would be enough for Bogo without a high draft pick... I would call him up and see if he would take Hudler and Kindl straight right now.

Well, I am happy. Though that will likely end any chance of us trading Hudler. I was just getting used to saying Bogo...

Wow, what a change of my mood.

Some sort of deal is needed, this is an awful game to watch. I am not hitting the panic button. I just would love to see something change. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS COMPLAIN!!! GREAT@!

Only reason I am here is the game is so awful.

I was a bit disappointed they didn't bring this up on the Hotstove.

There was no way he could. Wouldn't fit in the cap.

I think that is how most deals come to be made. It is the only way the Craig Anderson-Brian Elliot trade makes any sense...

Maybe a losing streak will make this deal materialize.

Free Press says Holland never talked to Atlanta.

Nooooooooooo problem. BTW I am floating out some tweets looking for more info.

This rumor has it's own page in the mill, if you hear anything might want to post it there. I don't know either, but at least he has press credentials. Makes it less likely to be complete bull. Plus his word got Pierre LeBrun to respond.