Majsheppard

If you got Jay, he would be number two. No disrespect to Brian. I would think Jay would be on the second line but he would get more PK time and would most likely end up with more time on ice then Brian. You would also be getting him to be number one for sure when Lids retires, which wouldn't be dumb. Then Ericsson could possibly take over number two from Rafalski. Of course this is a dream world In which I would love to live. BTW he leads the league in TOI because they only have two dmen worth a damn. P.S. Eff Toronto. They can languish in last forever.

I can't even pretend to care about this. I have no strong feelings one way or another.

I don't get this... Are they seriously trying to win a cup this year???? They are collecting 35+ year olds in exchange for draft picks, when they were the worst team in the league last year. Quality players for sure, but their backend sucks too much.

I don't have the link, but Holland said that he is not worried about his contract right now, and he will focus on this year first. Free Agents first. I bet it will get done around training camp.

Love the player, liked his former team, hate his new team. THUMBS DOWN!!! He apparently feels the same.

You are always excited!!! With this team, you have good reason. I worry about passing on Rolston and going for Bertuzzi.... Naw, in Holland we trust! Here we go eh?

DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM Florida had a hockey team. DUM DUM DUM DUM It isn't really a bad move, but they have done so little to help themselves that this one move looks bad. As in, this is the line they drew in the sand?

I am filled with worry. I get excited when we are on the ice, I worry all the time off it that somehow our greatness will be screwed up. In particular getting horrible players or people I hate joining us or teams I like. I was just moaning about Lubomir and Mike being moved from LA.

You should just wait and see with Jay, even if they do move him to another team, next year he could become a free agent right? Who knows what can happen in a year, heck you could trade for Bertuzzi, he could leave for another team, and get bought out all in a little more then a year. All sorts of crazy crap can happen. I am willing to go on record that JB is a player I could get behind in a Winged Wheel.

It feels like alot of drama to me...... Heck I want twelve, and more players I really like on the team!!!

I wouldn't do that, they have a very short lifespan.... er... I mean all hail Putin!!!

Malone would be a good fit for that team.

Oprik was the best defensemen for the Pens.

Please, if your going to get a goaltender. Raycroft was just booted from Toronto, At least he didn't tear apart a team.

Say hello to a sub 2 million dollar deal. BEST STORY OF THE DAY!!

Jay is the best Dman in possibly all of the Eastern conference now. No joke. He has wheels and is solid in every aspect of his game. If he becomes available, and I still think he is stuck in Florida for a bit longer, I would give him top two defensemen money. I think he would be like adding another Kronner type to the fold.

If someone offers him 4 million or something like that, let him go. I'll take those picks, and Val will not be worth as much to any other team as he is to us. He is a good player, but he is better for playing with the cast around him. He doesn't really make players around him better. A great fifth or sixth forward for us. A good top six for someone else, we would look like Burke letting the Oilers hand him a good draft pick.

I know it won't happen, but who else would love to see us screw Nashville right in the arse by taking their best player via an offersheet? :Evil laugh:

He is my problem. What makes a person a steal, is if they are going to exceed for that team in what they need him for. Impossible to tell before we know what team they end up for. I think Streit and Liles are the best bets, but they need to find the right team.

I always respected your looking at things by the books and getting the stats. I agree with what your saying, a simple misunderstanding. I don't think he is a hockey god, but he is pretty darn good, and has potential. That is what I am always looking at, I have done some scouting in my day. A little for football and a little for hockey, nothing past high school level mind you, and I always look for upside and how to break it out. I hope I am completely wrong about Shea, I HATE Nashville. REALLY HATE THEM.

I don't think I said he was going to be a Norris contender. I don't disagree with you in that their core has alot of good young players. Weber will however find himself on one of the top two parings, as well as a dominant fixture on the special teams. I think its going to be Suter Weber Dan and Zid Zannon and DeVries With DeVries on his way out sooner or later, and Zannon prob being classified as a top four defensemen as well. Remember Top four defensemen don't necessarly have to play on the top two pairings. They can anchor the third paring and take extra shifts on special teams. Some teams play 1,3 2,5 4,6 in their parings. My thinking is that their D was so good that they had some great players taking less ice time then they could on other teams even though they are young. I think two of the best young (under 24) Defensemen are in the Central.

I didn't see any helmets when I went last, Gloves were expensive but not really any more so then they would be retail. Sticks are tricky. Some of them are cheap, like 75 dolars. Some are 175 and up. Depends really on alot. I really recomend you go whether or not you can afford anything. It really gives you a great concept of what goes into the making of a favourite stick for an NHL'er. You get to see some different attempts. I have picked up sticks that never were used, of a different brand then they are used to and were just trying. It really allows you to get a good look. If you are a collector, then prepair to spend more.

Oh and get off yourself. Eva said he was no good. I was quoting someone who agreed with me and was telling someone else that Weber was NOT a 5th defensemen. The term is what the team wanted, its what everyone wants. You want your guy to be a RFA. You want his contract to come up at 26 and not 27 so you don't have to compete with everyone, and if someone else does sign him they could get compensation. Holland does the same, you want those contracts up at 26 so you force the player to deal with you and you only at least once more. Most cases of arbitration end up going there because of the term. I agree with you that Pavel's contract ended up saving money, but I do not know if that trend will continue, will the cap continue to go up like this every year? Also it is a big risk, what if Weber ends up being really bad (unlikely)? A 7 year contract would be devistating. We gave Pavel 7 years because he was older then Weber, facing UFA, and we recognized he was a cornerstone that we couldn't let get away. Weber performs over this contract he will get a simular deal, if he wants it. It takes a club and a player to tango, or sign contracts. As for me, I did see Franzen coming. I did see Kronner coming, and Zetter and Pavel. It is called forming an opinion. You know, like what you just did of me. The difference is I was right all those times. Go ahead and tell me some of my hair brained ideas. When I get something wrong I eat my crow with humble pie and ice cream. Like when I was optimistic with Bertuzzi and happy about Calder. You know for someone who likes to point out others misses, you sure don't like to recognize their hits. I simply like conversation with civil and intellegent people, preferably with a sense of humor. You know, like if you read my posts and see that the concept of stealing Weber was because I would like to get Nashville. You know, funny joke. I think it is a nice change of pace from talking about Hossa every day, even though I know alot of people like to talk about him knowing its not going to happen and it is just a source of lighthearted fun. And I will call you when Franzen has more then a half season, and a playoff worth of greatness. Athough I do think he was great in his own way before hand. And if you disagree with that, then maybe you should change your Mule Avatar, don't want to look like a hippocrit now. I don't want people to kiss my ass, well except maybe you right now. All in good fun guy, remember we all bleed Red.

I just do not understand how no one can ever recognize potential in players and their role on the team. You know those badmouthing him are the same people who demanded Franzen be traded. I have heard from more then one spot that when Phanuef and Weber were being looked at together early by scouts, everyone agreed that Dion was polished and ready to be a factor but Shea would be right there with him in a handful of years. His progression seems to back that up. Nashville made the playoffs because they had one of the best Defenses in the league from top to bottom. Obviously they don't have the top quality that we do, but they had top four dmen on the third paring. It really was like having 6 dmen that could be third dmen on other teams. Shea is undoubtably the number one guy for them down the line.

You have to win in order to get people intrested in your team. I don't care if you make a hockey team in a place that has never heard of hockey before, if the team wins then they will get excited. Blind regional superiority is a huge sell, being number one will make a team sound. PHX has a chance at being a contender if they don't let their new found offense come at the expense of defense. They have great youngsters and they need someone on that blueline to lead them.