EstonianWingsFan#1

You know what guys, I think it is possible that Sundin takes a huge paycut! Think about it - he's pretty old already and he is desperate to win the cup. Detroit is his only realistic option, we have a cup winning team + Hossa now, adding him would make the Wings a bloody terminator of this league. We have it all and imagine what he could add! If he takes a huge paycut, I for sure would welcome this talented but aging superstar to Detroit. Other option to me is give Helm an opportunity and more icetime this year. That guy is a blast! What an energy. Don't be so negative about the paycut, that guy has enough money, but he is desperate to win a Stanley Cup! He has been working all his career for that and probably dreamt about it since he was a kid. So we'll see.. one thing is clear, adding Sundin would be another huge surplus for us and the only thing in between the Wings and the Cup next season would be the injury list. That vulnerability was seen last season in defence corps. Other than that, we would be fine without him also, but if possible, who wouldn't add another cherry on this Stanley Cup winning cake.

I have always been against trading Hudler, he's been great considering the icetime and he really can deliver. Samuelsson I also like and wouldn't trade. Helm should be given a bigger role for the team, he is a physical player too and he's fast plus can score. I think he was one of the best players in the finals considering overall play. Now we somehow got also Kronwall going like a beast, he has really improved the physical side. I don't thing making big changes in a team that won the cup should be done. And we got Hossa, that's a huge advantage in addition to last years team. I say let guys like Helm, Hudler, Filppula have more icetime. In my opinion the wings don't necessarily need any enforcers. We are really strong. Chelios in not needed anymore, rather we should use more Ericsson or Meech, they can do it.. Can't wait to see Hossa in red/white

Holland fell asleep. Again.. Legendary guy. 5 hours of boner for nothing...

Holland does it again. It's like a situation where seriously sexy girl offering some sex tomorrow but when the final hour arrives she has a headache...

Oh man, I'm afraid Lemieux and McCarty is this years harvest.. 10 more minutes the hope lives.. HOSSA godammit!! Kennnyyyyyy??!?!

I found a funny thing: But the dude in the crowd is wrong:

No Point. Why get an aging D-man, besides, Lidstrom, Rafalski and Kronwall are getting lots of icetime, which means he won't be getting the same icetime in Detroit as in LA, or others suffer. It's just a matter of time until this guy throws his skates away. I'm not saying he's bad, but I'm not into this. If he's cheap and we don't throw in Kindl, Pyatt, Larsson, Axelsson or similar, then it's fine by me, otherwise we wouldn't need him. I wouldn't mess up a team that tops the league. And the Ducks suck this year..

Hey guys, Shawn Matthias, who was sent to Florida's ranks in Bertuzzi trade.. guess what, I think we made another bad deal... I understand it's too early to say about his future, but we don't have Bertuzzi either anymore... To be honest, one of the things I hate about the Red Wings organization is Ken Holland and his idea to change prospects for aging stars. For example look at Avs, they've done good job in picking and developing prospects like Stastny, Budaj, Svatos, Wolski, Hlinka, Hensick, Cumiskey etc.. Haha, it's even more frustrating that it's the Avs. Ok, take a look at Blackhawks, they also have serious prospect ranks, they never give them away. Why can't the Wings concentrate on developing new guys, instead, they give them away. Thank god we have Zetterberg and Datsyuk - the main gems. Maybe I'm overreacting since Detroit has gone over 100 points during the regular season without any problems during the last decade, but still, I think collecting aging stars isn't the right way. Other than that, I still believe we luckily have got good prospects at the moment.. just that I feel we give good prospects away too easily.. Anyways, Matthias is currently OHLs top scorer, 8 points in 2 games, same as Tavares. Might be just a kickass start to a season, or good overall team helps achieving his numbers, but I think we gave away a promising prospect. What do you think? http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/s...ype=top_scorers

No way, I like Sammy, I remember how people bashed him at the beginning of playoffs and then he seriously bloomed. I like his style, he may not be hitting around all the time but he isn't exactly a soft player. I mean he was grittier than Bert. But thats another story, Bert will improve, it isn't easy to jump into playoffs after being out all season. Lapointe is overpaid aging punk, who doesn't have the scoring touch anymore. I mean when he went to Bruins he was great, then he faded, all he did was asking for a bigger paycheck - for nothing. Rather I'd give a go to some younger player and actually Grigorenko has bulked during last couple of years and is little bit like Holmer. Good scorer and passes, drives hard to net, strong in traffic, great on powerplay.. I've waited too many years to see what he can do, now we have a chance.. I think the Wings old strategy doesn't work anymore. It's not the 1995 - 2002 period, when team was pretty much built on Stevie, Shanny, Fedorov, Lidström etc.. Wings should concentrate on rebuilding with younger players and it's working already, we got Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kindl is coming up, Howard, Franzen, Filppula. Hudler has improved, Grigs is coming. I must say that I am quite surprised that Detroit hasn't suffered at all during the changes, because Detroit has been one of the top teams every year, despite relatively weak playoffs most of the last 5 years. I wonder how much Wings average age drops when Cheli and Dominator retire?

Come on guys, Yzerman is gone, he is my favorite player, always will be and nothing will change that, but if a player decides to retire, he does it for a reason. I think Yzerman felt he cannot produce and play as earlier and that's his inner question. Let's respect that. If someone wants to play, despite the age etc, he will, like Chelios. I'm very happy about the fact that Stevie Y is in the system, so we know that he lives actively on inside the team. Yzerman was mainly a huge heart in the team, besides being a hockey genius. As far as I know he continues to work for the team, I'm not very sad. We all know Steve loves the Red Wings and we still have him. So let's move on, let's concentrate on the future, let's concentrate on building a new young team. But yeah, we never know. I'm telling you, we lost the cup because we didn't have Schneider. No wonder the Ducks are after him if Niedermayer really retires. What a shock, Niedermayer is quite young to retire for a defenceman of his caliber. That made me think, a player who has achieved everything isn't motivated enough anymore.

Yay!! Actually not very surprised. I mean Hasek made a mistake when he retired once, now why on earth would he retire. This guy is a 42.y.o. goalie genius, being like 24.y.o., being one of the top goaltenders in the league last year. He will ask more, for sure, but no problem. Anyone remembers CuJo-s 8 million US contract ??? Now that was a money flushed through the toilet pipes. CuJo did quite well but stank in the playoffs and was never worth the 8 Mil. But hey, isn't it all about results?? Hasek provides results and I am pretty sure that Wings had won the Cup if they had defeated Anaheim. Once again, Giguere was the main man. Offensively the Wings were better. Oh and yeah, we saw how much the Wings needed Schneider... Hasek back!!! Sign Schneider!! Leave Lang.

Yeah, it was confirmed in spectorshockey, that he said two weeks ago he stays in Russia next season. Though, this might be a self-marketing trick. It may be just a way to get a good deal from some NHL club, to get more money. We all know that players who seem to come from European leagues, don't get much of a contracts. But damn, this guy rocks. Given a good scoring line, he would be in my opinion one of the key players in any team.

I've been an admirer of Morozov for a few years time new. I think this guy bloomed in Russia. Hell yeah I'd take him, replace Lang with Morozov? I wouldn't think more than a second. Russian superleague is tough, I can tell you that, if a player can compete in Russia, he will compete in NHL, no problem. Remember Malkin, he did pretty well in 2005-2006 in Russia, was amongst the top players and look at him. Came to NHL and was ready for it. I say Morozov is twice the player he was some 5 years ago, last season he ripped Russian superleague into pieces. He just needs some 18+ minutes to prove his worth in NHL. I'd definitely take him. Plus, I think he can play both C and RW.

Cleary!!! I mean look at the guy all-around.. That kind of guy has been needed for many seasons. He's a damn wolf. But yeah, Filppula, Franzen and Lilja too.. and Lebda of course..

Hey guys, I'd like to say that Bertuzzi definitely was a half-Bertuzzi, we expected more.. but.. I think he should be resigned, I don't think we saw enough of him. He was all season without playing and everyone needs some time. I say we gotta get rid on Lang instead. I think Bertuzzi can't ask the same he could have when he scored 90+ points, so I'm afraid if he is affordable and we won't sign him, someone will get him cheap as underachiever and lately injury prone winger and he will shine next season. No way, let's give him another season. Still, if he's asking too much I wouldn't try to sign him.. I believe he will still bounce back and I definitely have faith in him.. I mean think about it, he bounced straight in between Cup hungry playoff teams, these things require more adjustment. Then, seeing that he isn't exactly what expected yet, they gave him something like 12-13 minutes per game. Have some faith, if he blooms next season, then we all light candles and open beers to salute Holland...

I read somewhere its prospect and a pick, depends on if Wings get to the conference finals and if Bert is our top scorer in playoff then its 1st round pick, don't know everything yet..

OK Kids, this is our hockey lesson of the year: Topic is: BARGAIN Teacher is : Ken Holland 2006: Vancouver Canucks traded Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld to the Florida Panthers for Roberto Luongo, Lukas Krajicek and a 6th round selection in 2006. 2006/07 He played for the Panthers 7 games. 2007 Came to Detroit for Matthias and a pick. Is it just me or did the Panthers pull off a horribly ineffective deal last year? Holland is a wizard afterall. Haha, it's time for some balloons and firework.

Damn, I'm exploding with happiness, what a deal, it doesn't sound like Holland at all. We got our Shanahan now, didnt we? Does anyone know when is our new predator healthy to hunt?

Damn, actually I didn't believe Holland would pull this one off. I was scared all he'll get is Calder. Anyway, hope the prospect is Emmerton, I'm going to be pissed if Kindl went to Florida. The Panthers seem to like such short named Czechs or Slovaks ... Olesz, Mezei, Kreps, Frolik, Kolnik Kindl Damn guys, I really hope not Kindl.. Anyway, welcome to the boat Bert! Stay healthy..

No Way! First of all, Bertuzzi is way too risky. Secondly, we do not need him to snap again, like Moore's case, but I'm much more worried he isn't the agressive scorer he used to be, it's the mental effect. This will always haunt him forever and as he's getting older, he will probably be like Shanny, good player but not the power forward we're looking for. Hudler is starting to shine now, and guys, he has only some 6-7 minutes per game. Still he has 9 goals already, so I think we should give him at least 12+ minutes per game before we evaluate him as a trade bait. If I knew for sure that Bertuzzi is healthy and gives us the necessary grit, I'd go for it. In my opinion we definitely should't trade Hudler yet, after all, the Wings are doing pretty great. So many years of talk that Hudler doesn't have it what it takes to be a NHL player, now let's give him an opportunity. I'd rather give away few draft picks or forget Bert afterall. I think other teams also see that Hudler is a valuable kid for any team, give him more minutes and few bulky offence-capable wingers to do the dirty work, he'd be great. Bertuzzi was a main part of a deal when the Panthers sent Luongo to Vancouver, now trade him for Hudler?? Either Hudler is showing some serious upside or the Panthers see Bertuzzi fading already ... I say no deal. Let's stick with him. Hudler's a spark after few seasons.

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Hey Donohue75, did you even see Jonsson in Riga this year. This is no soft puck-passing blueliner anymore, Jonsson looked more like a crazy bull who tried to contribute in every situation. He did really well, in every aspect of the game and he hasn't lost his scoring touch. He also hit alot and crashed opponents to the boards all the time. I would be more than happy if we got Jonsson. He definitely was a positive surprise for me.

I can only say that I like the stuff he is doing in Riga right now. Would be a decent pickup. I love the idea of signing him, he wouldn't probably ask too much also. Go for it.

Well it seems that Jakub Kindl was pushed to the Griffins after unlucky playoff series in OHL. Now the question to you guys who saw him in this 6 - 0 victory last night - How was he, how did he handle his game in the AHL level? I'm way too curious, I have so high hopes for this dude. I think there are lots of other fans also closely looking at Kindl, checking out his every move. Well if anyone saw, we'd be glad to hear.. Thanks.

Well looks like McGrath is reaching the top of the mountain like he did in the first 5 games of the season. 5+15=20 points in last 10 games, including 8 assists in last 2 games, being 2nd and 1st star accordingly. 2nd scorer OHL, got past Bolland. Check it out yourself: http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/s...ype=top_scorers http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/p...yer.php?id=2498