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I've already done quite a lot of Christmas shopping. I go into the stores with the decor and I go into Christmas shopping mode. Their psychology works on me I am sad to say. Not before Halloween though.

I agree. I was very annoyed with the collapse (and as said before I didn't watch it just saw the shocking score shift). I know that we didn't play good at all with that score. We haven't been too great lately. Should there be concern. Yes. But you know as well as I know that it tends to be doom day after any loss let alone a loss like this. Some of the optimistic posts are in retaliation to the exact opposite end of the world, losing the next xx amount of games, etc. There's a big difference between criticism or even downright anger at the team's poor play to the end of the world scenarios that are played out here. Mind you there's no point fighting it really, but it is a discussion board and we are all opinionated.

+ too much beer. They need to get off the sauce

I happen to have an army of Steves who could break it up.

Nonetheless that wouldn't be fence sitting. It would be being eternally optimistic. Fence sitting would be more like..."I'm just not sure yet if the Wings suck or not". She always believes they don't. I'll be on that bandwagon. Personally, I believe the other extreme is just wanting to be the one to have said "I told you so" when the Wings finally do go into decline. Yeah, I do believe criticism is due for bad play, but it does tend to be excessive.

But in all fairness...we usually are fine, and we usually do pull our stuff together and do well in the end.

Holy crap...glad I missed this (wasn't on tv here) but I saw it was like 5-2 like halfway through the third and I thought we had it in the bag and didn't really pay attention for the rest...then see THAT final score ... heartbreaking.

I've missed you with the power of 1000 suns ... wb

We're not panicking...we're pretending

Eat some ice cream, read a book, and procrastinate until you can't stand it any more

I would re-sign Fedorov and Shanahan...because I am Holland and I like to re-sign people.

I seriously thought you were joking. Hasek was absolutely terrible at the start of last year, and is known as a 'slow starter' and ain't getting any younger. Even if Ozzie isn't playing great I expect better out of fans in their irrational goalie coveting.

Were those jokes, or do you simply not remember Hasek's numbers

I'm happy to be watching tonight. Because I moved and my cable is wonky and doesn't get the Wings i've missed quite a few games, but then I found out the other day that things have changed on my cable and I am now gettng the games. So ... yay ...

Wow, LGW's Water Cooler has gotten brutal. I'm sorry to hear about all that, UK.

"Pride & Prejudice" by Jane Austen ... just have to see what all this Mr. Darcy business is all about. I just finished "An Abundance of Katherines" by John Green

I like your hair, Lizz :-)

Sounds awesome Sorry for your loss.

If you find out why men are jerks maybe you could find out a correlation

I didn't say they're overpaid (though it's debatable) but obviously the owners are being paid well off them, I understand that. I said they are getting paid well and that's part of their job. I'm not sure if you are aware but there are plenty of players who you have to pay to get their autograph so I don't see why you couldn't resell said object if you didn't feel like it. It's your property. Also there are legitimate stores that sell autographs and people buy them which shows that there is a demand. If there is a demand then there are fans and collectors willing to buy it, and who really cares? I don't think they are low life. There are questionable tactics, sure, it's not all cut and dry. You posted an eBay like earlier of a jersey. A game used jersey (authentic) costs a fortune. If that is authentic (lots of fakes on eBay too) it probably cost a fortune for that person to buy, then they had to get it signed. If they are selling it off for whatever reason they probably are sad to see it go...if they are a dealer then they probably paid a pretty penny to buy it and at $300 they are currently losing money. If Datsyuk took a couple seconds of his life to sign it, so what. And there's nothing saying Datsyuk wasn't paid for that signature either. The first time I saw Ozzie his signature was $8 and I remember dealers having him sign 10-20 things, and they paid. The second time I saw him it was $25 with Mike Vernon, and the third time it was for charity. I've seen players sign from anywhere from $3-$50. I don't think they are despicable for charging, nor do I think fans are despicable for getting autographs. They are getting paid for going to training camp, for going to games, and they represent the Red Wings. That's why they wear suits, because how often can you get 20 guys into suits. It's part of their job. If you see them at the mall and ask, it might be crossing a line, I'm not debating that point, but I guess that's the price you pay for being a celebrity. At training camp however? Is it too much for an autograph? They should be flattered because most of them are not of the caliber of an Yzerman or the like, but are treated great because they are Red Wings, but they'll be forgotten in a couple of years. Those who dislike the autographs avoid them, believe me, but I'm sure some of them enjoy the attention to some degree, and understand that it's a conduit to meet the fans in a small way. Oh, and maybe they're more comfortable with signing a simple autograph than with someone coming up and wanting to touch them fawning all over them, no matter how sincere.

Oh Pssh. I collect autographs / autographed items. I also collect other hockey related items. I collect game used sticks and jerseys and if I have one, I like to get it signed. I collect Red Wing memorabilia. I like meeting the players. It's nice to say 'hi', and while it doesn't have the same mystique as it did when I was a kid it's still interesting now and then to meet a player and I don't see the problem with them signing something, it's a nice souvenir. It might be more nobel to get a handshake, I don't know...or maybe a hug, but I don't have the nerve to go out to Stevie yet and say 'how about a hug' ha ha. I'm quite a shy person and don't always say much one way or the other. I don't think it's very nice to put people down about it, but believe me, my feelings aren't hurt. Oh, and I have an eBay business in which I make my living. I've never sold anything I've gotten autographed. I think that there are people who make a living of getting autographs, but simply stating that the only reason anyone would want one for that is personal bias, not reality. These players are playing a game for a living and being paid DAMN well for it...it's part of the job...as long as you're not stalking them I'd see no reason why they should be offended by an autograph, it's not that big of a deal to sign your name.

You guys make such a cute couple

I don't know if I've ever posted here. I've been really busy with work and kept my head down and haven't been around lately, but I've been trying to get in better shape. Firstly...drinking less pop, because yeah. And making better food decisions, etc. Also for the last few mornings I've been playing tennis for 30 or so minutes, trying to work up to more...I'm thinking of taking walks at night also. Used to take walks at night, moved to tennis, but I want to do both, but don't always feel like it at night. Lastly, I am thinking of taking dancing lessons, but that won't be till the winter or fall probably when there's not much to do outside. I'm not even sure if I have actual goals, just want to look better and feel better. I lost quite a bit of weight at the beginning of the year by drinking more water and less pop but I've kind of fallen out of that habit.

Pictures you don't remember are the best kind haha