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We all are Edi

Somewhere between two and infinity. I'm sorry though I'm probably being unfair, Dom just probably looks worse because Ozzie looks so good.

I wasn't trying to come against you, so much as point out that it doesn't matter what was said in the opening post so much as Hasek HAS had many bad games. Even in TC and preseason Ozzie was better.

Topic starter was wrong though. Oh COME ON. Cujo played better in the playoffs here than Dom ever did here. Not everything about winning a Cup hinges on goaltending. Once in a while the team needs to score. We scored heartily this playoffs and that was a big factor in getting to round 3. If you remember with Legace in the year before the only forward to do anything was Z, really, or maybe you didn't watch that year. I'm not saying Legace was great, but there was more too that than just goaltending issues. Ozzie should have been in but ended up being injured. Lang was more instrumental in getting us to round 3 than Dom was.

Oh say what you will but Flip definitely has teh movie star looks... he just needs a good hair stylist!

Ah, they just need some more confidence. Incidentally...your sn makes me hungry for turkey and it is that time of year... *tummy rumbles*

It's frustrating to know that no matter how well Ozzie plays he'll be labeled as some kind of loser. He could be #1 in the league in everything and we'd still be looking for a starting goaltender. It's so confusing. Osgood is a PROVEN goaltender, but aside from all that, he's doing really well right now. There is absolutely no debate as to who should be our #1, but it's perpetuated by 5 letters on the back of our backups jersey H-A-S-E-K because there should be absolutely no discussion here. Dom didn't bring it ENOUGH in the playoffs last year...not blaming him for the loss, but just saying Hasek is our savior is absolute BS. We should really, really realize that Hasek = Cup is a myth. Especially this Hasek.

Yeah, it's times like this when we're glad we didn't pick him back up. So it was definitely a good call, but it's still a shame, I'd have liked him in the lineup here.

This is exactly it. When can we call a spade a spade. It's CLEAR who's the better goalie and who should be played and if the names on the back of the jerseys were reversed no on would argue this...but Dom is getting older and not playing well. I think it is what it is, but the potential is there, so .. sure.. don't write him off yet, but don't be delusional and think our only chance of doing anything this year is with Hasek. Osgood is a Stanley Cup champion, too...and it might be that no matter what goalie in the NHL this year we have we just aren't meant to win it. Still, Hasek being our only hope? I hope not. And I don't think so since he's only one 1 Cup of the 3. This might sound weird..but focus more on scoring no matter who's in net. If D is our weak point this year focus on our strong points. That's how teams win Cups, but utilizing their strong points to exploit other teams weak points. We still have decent D, but maybe it's not a powerhouse like in other years. Dom started to look tired in the playoffs last year...and he's starting slower and slower...so he'd need to be rested a lot anyway...at some point...I'm not even sure I would trust him in net in the playoffs. Plus our offense plays more open and better in front of Ozzie. The D pulls back usually in front of Dom because they don't know what he'll do. I think we have a better chance of winning with Ozzie in net. Take that for what it's worth. Mmm....I agree. All I hear is what a team player he is...but also how he can't and won't sit...so I say sit him, he should know he's not been good and be okay with that.

IMO that depends on a few things. Lilja stepped up pretty big in the playoffs last year (well...until the END, sadly) but honestly I don't see our goalies suffering from getting more shots, etc...either Hasek or Ozzie would probably do better getting an average of 30 shots. We've always freaked out over having the best goalie in the league but also needing the best D in the league. As long as we don't lose our scoring ability in the playoffs I think we could be ok. Not saying we'll win the Cup...too many unknown factors.

LOL...oops. You've caught on to my master plan to eliminate Datsyuk I will fix that! PS. I'm not putting Z above Pavs or Pavs above Z, I think the lines would get equal-ish ice time over the games.

Sometimes all you have to do is break the ice...then it'll all come. Give him a little confidence back, you know? When everything's going wrong and you aren't getting any bounces, getting one could boost his confidence. I expect the slump to be over now.

Ha ha...of course they think that! None of them want to be replaced! I can agree to a certain extent IF they split of the ZDH...it just has to be done. Not even permanently...but it would be nice to have 2 solid lines.

I agree..as stated above, because I think we're putting all our eggs in one basket with the ZDH line and an injury could down us. Also it would be nice to give these guys a chance. I disagree with one thing...I'd rather see Flip with Dats as they played well together last year. And Hudler with Z. Hudler - Zetterberg - Homer Flip - Datsyuk - Franzen Maltby - Draper - Cleary and so on.

I don't see a lot of freaking out. I see a lot of stating the facts. The only people who are freaking out are people who are insisting that Dom is still playing well enough to be called the starter. How many games does it have to stretch before we can call it good? If it was the other way around, there'd be NO DOUBT. In fact if it was any other goalie everyone would be calling for Hasek's head. Now, I don't think Dom is totally done, I think he has potential to come back. I don't think people *should* call for his head, no. That's pointless. I say give him more of a backup type roll until he gets his act together giving them a split of games, but Ozzie getting the better teams. No we CAN'T afford to play Dom 5 times consecutively just in case after 5 games and the magical number hit then he gets his groove back. He can be like anyone else and earn his spot. He's 'The Dominator' but he's also old and really has no chance to play anywhere else at this point, so if he decides to whine and not be a team player, that's his decision.

I think he's looked good, and the team would benefit from splitting up Dats and Z, to put with Flip and huds with Holmer and Franzen being the other wingers...or Cleary. The second the ZDH line stops being effective. I love them they work good and if splitting them doesn't work we can put them back, but to balance out our team and to get MORE scoring in the long run, something has to be done to give us more solidity on our other lines. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I could see it coming apart near the end of the season if anything happens. Putting all our eggs in one basket...so to speak.

You basically just said Osgood. Except that you said also not Osgood. Which was confusing. Dom was a factor in us NOT winning last year, does that count? It's DOM...the reason why we have him is so that he can supposedly make unsaveable saves when there are defensive breakdowns. I'm not asking him to stop every puck, but if he's not doing that then why exactly do we need him in the playoffs? If he is not doing Domlike awesomeness then simply put Ozzie > Dom. And everything reflects that right now. If Dom gets unrusty and starts playing awesome again then he will prove he should get more games....and that he might be a force again. If he's not...it doesn't matter if he plays in the playoffs or not.

Nah...Ozzie shouldn't change his helmet! He made the right decision. This is the second time he's had another helmet and the second time he's denied it. His current attire suits him.

Now? Ozzie's been #1 for awhile now. Hmm...or maybe that's just me.

I wish we'd have come back more...so close, bah. And Hank *sad face* It was just a disappointment of a game. I want gyros.

Wow, that was extremely unexpected. Cool. Way to go Dats! I'm glad he finally gets a goal!

Haha, forget stats. We'll just use marshmellows as a guideline. And we'll get a couple of goalies to balance spoons on their noses and whoever wins goes in the Hall.

Those are ugly. They hurt my soul. Ouch.

Personally it doesn't even bother me when people say he won't be in the hall, or he won't be retired, because there's a huge chance he won't and everyone is entitled to their opinions, and usually they are pretty reasonable about it. I think he should be, and I hope he will be, but realize that there's a huge possibility he won't. I just hate when to make their point people have to discredit everything he's done...it makes me make a face. People are still entitled to their opinion, but grar!

Adorable picture Rabs! Wish I was in Fla!