flyerdog

HI guys, I have posted here before, and just wanted to comment on the Frazen extension. I just have to shake my head at how efficient the Wings FO is at managing the team. You guys may have the best managed team in all of sports. Whats amazing is how they find talent that everybody else seems to miss, and then fit everyone under the same umbrella in terms of cap and system. When we played recently, I reallt thought we were finally going to break the Joe Louis curse..not to be, but that game spoke volumes about the Wings..give them a crack of daylight and they will run with it as your come from behind win showed. As soon as you scored the first goal , I knew it was over (never wake a sleeping giant). Naturally I hope that the Flyers will win the cup , being a fan, but as a hockey fan, I have to admit that a Red Wings/Devils final would be incredible to watch. for several reasons both are fast paced counter punching teams. What I noticed from the recent Flyers/Wings game was that to beat the Wings you have to frustrate them , and keep it going for 60 min, which we didn't do..and NO ONE in the league is better at frustrating another team than Marty Brodeur, when he is on. THis could make for an interesting dynamic, and an incredible SCF. So if my team can't win the cup (and this year we are still missing a couple of key pieces: Goaltending as usual, and another Stud on D to compliment Timonen) I would love to see a Wings/Devils final , because despite records, the Wings are better than the Sharks and the Devils are better than the Bruins. Good Luck!!

no kidding!! They never seem to learn do they?

Hey guys since this is a Stuart thread I had a few questions..(I'm not trying to hijack) What do you guys think Brad will be looking for in terms of $$$? I ask because on our board, his name has been brought up a couple of times as a potential D man that might come free. In Philly, our D cost us against the Pens (Hacther with two bad knees and a broken tibia, and Jason Smith with 2 torn rotator cuffs)...Coburn was out for a couple and Kimo was out as well, so our D was young guys including Ryan Parent who played well considering he was essentially a rookie, and Modry who is well passed his prime and his father passed away just before the series, so understandably his mind was probably elsewhere. Paul HOlmgren has already said that we need to get better on the blueline..some of the names being tossed around are Biran Campbell who can move the puck but is a liability. Stuart is an intriuging option, but again we don't know his situation...will he want to leave a good situation for an unknown? will his salary demands be too high? How do you guys see this playing out with Brad?

If you're interested in an outsiders opinion: remember I posted a few weeks ago when you guys were playing the Avs, when I really noticed the skill, talent, and ability of the Wings..I remember saying to myself "Nobody can stop these guys" I knew that a sweep woud be very unlikely, Pitt has too much talent to not squeak out at least one game..but the flow of the series was amazing, at times the Wings looked simply unstoppable, then Pitt would score a timely goal and the momentum would shift...but then you guys have so many opportunistic players like Zetterberg and Datsyuk and just like that you'd score... I know it's a strange comparison, but I was reminded of Roger Federer..he's a guy who might look very pedestrian at times during a tennis match, but then on one opportunity he'll say "I got you"..and pull away and win the match... game 6 reminded my of that... in any case...congradulations..this year the BEST team really did win!

I forget the year, but it was an Eagles game..and the Eagles were having a mediocre season and were losing badly in this particular game..then Santa comes out and starts waving at the crowd who proceeded to pelt him with snowballs...kind of funny in retrospect..something you might see in Monty Python..but at the time it was a media feast "PHilly fans boo Santa Claus" Still though, not as bad as Giants fans who threw snowballs at the Chargers sideline during a game, hit one of the assistant coaches, and he had to be rushed to the hospital Then more recently there was the Caps writer : In response to a Washington Post column about the Flyers fans that read "women and children could be security for Megedeth," lead singer Dave Mustaine sent a videotaped message of support. He wore Jason Smith's sweater. I love that man (Dave Mustaine)..umm..not literally!!

Yeah they do have the jail in the Linc/ Vet stadium...not a very promising sign..but I think the Santa Claus incident forever tainted the city

Are you referring to the Clinton Portis incident? Much of that story was omitted from the press...here is an eyewitness account from a guy who was there: Portis Mom was trying to squeeze her entire posse into a row that had only a few seats and some paying fans were getting obstructed views as a result..they did tell her that there was no room but she insisted on trying to squeeze everyone in the row...finally people had enough and became angry and started yelling at her...next thing you know she's escorted to the Redskins sideline because "The Philadelphia fans were throwing beer at Mrs Portis"

that's universal...several years ago I went to a pre-season Pats/Eagles game in Foxboro with a few friends, one who was legally blind and developmentally disabled..not to be mean be it was obvious by looking at him..well the Eagles got hammered in that game and as we were walking back to the car... I had to endure several '***" comments as I had to hold my friends arm to navigate through the crowd and the dirt parking lot..not to mention about three guys spilling beer on me intentionally on the way out...and one guy right behind us literally YELLING in my ear : "Ricky Watters SUCKS!!, Charlie Garner SUCKS!!" etc... and the worst part was that I would have hoped that other people, even Pats fans would have please asked the guy to stop being an ass, but nobody said anything... Whenever the Flyers are in Boston, I always go to the games..and when they lose things are just as bad..."Gagne's a *****!!", "Hey anybody wanna get some cheeseteaks? HA HA HA!!!"... and when I don't react, they get plain nasty..and inappropriate, making comments about/ to my wife and such... I have a friend who is a huge Balt Ravens fan..and he once went to Pitt to see a game..the Ravens won..and on the way out, people were throwing stuff at him, one guy literally threatened him with violence saying "If you ever wear that shirt in my town again, I'll f##king KILL you!!" So you see idiocy is not unique to one city/location... on the flipside, the best had to be one game in Boston when the Flyers lost.. (during JOni Pitkanen's rookie year)I was leaving while enduring the typical "They suck" comments..in front of me was a group of about 5 kids , must have been 10-12 yrs old in their school hockey Jerseys..one moron yells at me "Pitkanen SUCKS" and these young kids tore him a new one!! They were like "You don't know what you're talking about!! JOni is an awesome d man" and "Joni's the best" shut that moron right the hell up!!

I don't condone either activity, to be honest, some overly drunk fan who doesn't know when he's had enough acting like an idiot. But Domi is a professional, as such that carries the mantle of restraint even under circumstances like this... It reminded me of something Denis Rodman would have done every team has fans that act like butt dumplings...during the 1997 series Wings/Flyers..for game four I was at a sports bar with a couple of friends and there was a table of four Wings fans with jerseys on (I had my Brind'Amour jersey on), as I walked to the bar I stopped an greeted them, and told them how I admired how well the wings were playing, asked if they were from Detriot etc..just polite conversation..no jawing at all... when the game started and the Wings started scoring they would all look over at me , give me the finger, yell "Flyers Suck!" and make derrogatory comments about either me or my friends..totally uncalled for, I just smiled through it... So the moral of the story is idiotic fans know not one singular team.

You should know better than to trust anything ESPN says about Hockey...I especiialy liked it when they mentioned that PAUL Forsberg injured his groin and that Flyers Goaltender "MICHAEL Biron was not playing tonight"

The WORST fans in the league has to go to the Habs..their team makes the playoffs and how do they respond? by trashing their city and overturning police cars...morons!!!

hey!!! man I remember that Domi game... he was PUblic Enemy number one in Philly..Matthew Barnaby was a close second...But when Domi dropped the gloves and Challenged Brashear..oh man the roar was deafening..and of course Donald turned him into a pulp...

on a related note, have you guys seen this website? mynhl draft I know hindsight is 20/20 but look at some past drafts and you have to ask yourself: what the F were they thinking???? example: 1991: Draft#:1 Eric Lindros Ht/Wt: Position:C Drafted From:Oshawa Generals (OHL) Draft#:2 Pat Falloon Ht/Wt: Position:RW Drafted From:Spokane Chiefs (WHL) Draft#:3 Scott Niedermayer Ht/Wt: Position:D Drafted From:Kamloops Blazers (WHL) Draft#:4 Scott Lachance Ht/Wt: Position:D Drafted From:Boston University (NCAA) Draft#:5 Aaron Ward Ht/Wt: Position:D Drafted From:U. of Michigan (NCAA) Draft#:6 Peter Forsberg Position:C Drafted From:Modo Hockey Ornskoldsvik you think Vancouver would like a MUlligan on that draft? or in 1990: the Flames swapped picks with NJ at #11 to pick Trevor Kidd...so the Devils at #20 selected....Marty Brodeur!!

no I'll admit, I have not..so I have to "pick" from what I HAVE seen..I guess my thinking was this: If I were going to start a franchise..which player would I build a team around? as such Brodeur would have to be #1..of course there are plenty of guys that deserve to be on a top ten list..BUt it would for me start with Brodeur..especially after things like this:

I will though 1. Marty Brodeur (NJ) 2. Alex Ovechkin (WAS) 3. Nik Lindstrom (DET) 4. Sidney Crosby (PIT) 5. Vinny Lecavalier (TB) 6. Dion Phaneuf (CGY) 7. Joe Sakic (COL) 8. Jaromir Jagr (NYR) 9. Danny Heatley(OTT) 10.Mike Richards (PHI) ok,ok, I'll admit that last pick was bias...

I posted about this in another thread...I"ve read accounts that they will have 14 FAs at the end of this season... the biggest being MAF (RA)..and next season Staal and Malkin... MAF will expect a generous offer, and Malkin will expect near Crosby numbers..HOssa will command at least $6M - $7M on the market...in this age of the salary cap...you simply can't pay everybody...

You know I think beating my team in 5 got to their heads especially the way they steamrolled us in the last game... I really think that they thought things would be that easy in the finals..but what they fail to realize is that the Flyers overacheived in the playoffs even we fans never expected to even GET to the ECF..we were the underdog against the "Cinderella" Caps where the lovefest was almost as bad..then underdogs to the Habs... add to that the Flyers are still a work in progress, there are tweaks yet to be made to fine tune the team for a legitimate cup run... add to that look at the defense they played against when they played us: TImonen out but for one game Coburn out for two games Jason Smith with two torn rotator cuffs Hatcher , slow as a tortoise, and with two bad knees and a broken tibia Modry whose mind was anywhere but the games (his father passed away right before the start of the series) it's no wonder they steamrolled us!! Bu now they have to face the likes of Lindstrom, Lilja,Rafalski, Stuart... they have not faced such a talented group throughout their playoff run...and your forwards are proving that they can strike just as quickly as the Crosby and Malkins of the league..then add in Osgood who is completely in their heads now and things look bleak for them... It's no surprise that they are expecting more calls, their PP has been their bread and butter..and with a PP unit like Crosby,HOssa,Malkin,Staal,Gonchar..it's easy to see why..but again they have not faced a team as defensively sound as the Wings..and now that they have...their ace in the hole (PP) is not producing...

The Pens were built for this season boom or bust..5 years of top drafting got them Crosby,Malkin,MAF,Staal etc...I think MT realizes he has to make it happen this year if at all..here is a list of Pens FAs after this season: UFA: Roberts Malone Hossa Laraque Ruutu Hall Beech Taffe Dupuis Eaton Orpik Smith Conklin RFA: Fleury next year it's Malkin and Staal again you can't pay everyone

Throughout the playoffs, the Pens have lived by their PP. Now that the Wings are shutting that down...they really don't know how to respond..and props to Osgood who is playing out of his mind... there was also an interesting comment made before game 2, comparing the Flyers series to this one, where the Flyers D men allowed them the zone and backed up, whereas the Wings D men are challenging at the blueline, probably because the Wings d men are better suited to keep up and recover when beaten..our D men were too slow for that...and the Pens just can't seem to break through.

very impressive performance guys..shutting out a team with that much firepower is no small feat...just one question: When did Marty Brodeur become a Red Wing? because some of the saves Osgood made were reminiscient of Brodeur!! just an amazing performance. Even after all the close calls, the Wings kept their composure, didn't panic (the achilles heel of my team) and methodically went about their business...game two should be a good one!!!

check out this site: NHL Draft history I know hindsight is 20/20 but if you look at some of the drafts in the 1990s..and see who was picked and who was passed over it'll make you say "D'OH!!!" bigtime more trivia: Tom GLavine (the pitcher) was drafted as an NHL player..ahead of Brett HUll

Hi guys, I am a life-long Flyer fan who posts on your board on occasion. I just wanted to express my admiraton for your team. I watched some of the game last night..and I was very impressed with your team, THe speed, skill and tenacity on display was incredible and I turly belive that when you guys are "on" no team in the league can match the intensity. For minutes at a time the Wings made the Avs look completely helpless out there. And this against a team with names like Forsberg, Sakic, and Hejduk Some of the things that impressed me: 1. Forced turnovers, relating to a tenacious forecheck 2. Crisp accurate passing, sure the puck bounced off a stick every now and then , but in general the passing was textbook, and it seemed that no single Red Wing seemed to hold on to the puck for more than one second before passing..very impressive 3. Puck support: no Red Wing seemed to be left on an island with the puck there seemed to always be a team mate ready to assist..and that player knew exactly where to be in short I was very impressed and I think you guys take this series and a Stars/Wings WCF will be very fun to watch THats all!! respectfully, flyerdog

lol!! if that happens, hopefully we learned our lesson from that series to be honest, our team is still a work in progress, we honestly didn't expect to be in round 2, and now that we are , and are playing well..some excitement is building, but the fact of the matter is that there are still questions on D, in goal (though Biron has played VERY well in this series). and our biggest problem is inconsistency.