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Thanks. Needless to say, I've had better.

That'd be really hard to do because Mayweather is only 5'8" and has never fought above light middleweight. Now who looks stupid? Already did that. Pizza makes me gassy. No thanks.

This is what I would do at the deadline if I were Holland: ARZ: Larkin, Smith, Natasiuk, 2016 1st DET: Ekman-Larsson WAS: Kindl (retain 50% of salary), Frk, 2015 2nd, conditional 2016 3rd DET: Green This is what I would do in the playoffs if I were Babcock: Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader Weiss - Datsyuk - Tatar Helm - Sheahan - Pulkkinen Miller - Glendening - Franzen Jurco, Andersson, Callahan, Cleary Kronwall - Ekman-Larsson DeKeyser - Quincey Ouellet - Green Ericsson, Marchenko, Jensen This is what I would do at the draft if I were Holland: EDM/BUF/CAR/ARI/NJ: Helm, Ericsson, Ferraro, 2015 1st, 2016 2nd, 2017 2nd DET: 5th overall pick (Strome) SJS: Nyquist, Jensen, 2017 1st DET: Burns This is what I would do to start next season if I were Babcock: Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Burns Weiss - Datsyuk - Tatar Jurco - Sheahan - Pulkkinen Miller - Glendening - Franzen Andersson, Callahan Kronwall - Ekman-Larsson DeKeyser - Quincey Ouellet - Green Marchenko Hopefully we could roll something like this in 5 years: Mantha - Strome - Burns Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Zetterberg - Athanasiou - Pulkkinen Abdelkader - Glendening - Callahan Miller Ekman-Larsson - DeKeyser Ouellet - Sproul Kronwall - Marchenko Mrazek Howard

OEL or bust

I seem to remember when Marchenko was drafted that he was highly touted but that he publicly stated he would only come over to play for the Wings. Thats why we were able to get him in the 7th. Does anyone else remember hearing that? I would think that would hurt his trade value.

I didnt say that they were clones, I said they are similar. For years, weve bemoaned the fact that we arent big enough, arent tough enough to play against, dont have any right shooters. Tatar and Nyquist are similar in the fact that they arent big, arent tough, both shoot left. Both of them have good value right now, lets move one to address others needs and become a better, more well rounded team.I agree that Tatar is the one to keep. Id love to move Nyquist in a package for Burns or Wheeler. Imagine in two years... Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Wheeler Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Mantha - Datsyuk - Pulkkinen Deadly.

Youre right. Theyre Shaq and Kobe.

No one said anything about expendable. Expendable implies unnecessary. Im saying that they are very similar players and if we are making tough decisions to make our team better, thats where id look to. Larkin looks like a good, 2 way center, which we'll be needing once Datsyuk retires. Mantha is a big, skilled, goal scoring winger, which weve lacked since Franzen died. We will need both those guys sooner than later. Nyquist and Tatar are average sized, left shooting, finesse wingers. Itd be nice to flip one of them to address a need somewhere else.

I think a better question is Tatar or Nyquist. Mantha and Larkin fill different needs, Tatar and Nyquist are redundant.

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Im bored. My car broke down on the freeway and im waiting for the tow truck. Meanwhile, Ive been reading through the trade thread and its obvious that when it comes to valuing our players, there is a wide range of opinion on what they are worth. So I thought it might be fun to play a little game and get a better idea of the general consensus is. If you want to participate, make a list of our current roster players and before reading anyone else's answers, assign a value to each. To keep it simple, ive used only the following values: Picks (number of picks and which round), and/or prospects (top, mid or low prospect). You're free to use whatever values you feel appropriate, but those are the ones I will be using. Once youve come up with your list and have posted it, go back and read what other people have come up with and see how you did! P.S. I obviously havent put a ton of thought into this (and I dont think you should either) so please don't pick my list apart by comparing player A's value versus player B. These are just off the top of my head. Zetterberg - 2 1sts, top prospect, mid prospect Datsyuk - 1st, 2nd, top prospect Nyquist - 1st, 2nd, mid prospect Tatar - 1st, 2nd, mid prospect Sheahan - 1st, 2nd, low prospect Abdelkader - 2nd, top prospect Weiss - 2 2nds, mid prospect Helm - 2nd, mid prospect, low prospect Jurco - 1st Pulkkinen - 2 2nds Franzen - 2nd, 3rd, mid prospect Miller - 4th Glendening - 4th Andersson - 6th Kronwall - 2 1sts, top prospect, low prospect DeKeyser - 1st, 2nd, top prospect Ericsson - 2nd, 2 3rds Smith - 2nd, 3rd, mid prospect Quincey - 2nd, mid prospect Ouellet - 1st, top prospect Kindl - 4th Lashoff - 6th Howard - 2 1sts, top prospect Gustavsson - 2nd, mid prospect Mrazek - 1st, 2nd, mid prospect

Yea, now that I think about it, some of my valuations are a little high. 2 1sts for anyone is high, because even if you are in the playoffs this year, who knows where that 1st will be next year (like the Kessel trade) Speaking of Kessel, he went for only 2 1sts and a 2nd, and that was from Toronto so there was a very strong chance that pick would turn into a top 5 (which it did) I would go back and change some of my values, but that would defeat the purpose of the challenge I think!

Yea, I guess I should have clarified that. My thinking was if we were to become sellers before the deadline and we were trading with teams still in the hunt. No one else wants to throw their list into the ring?

Like I said, I didn't put a ton of time into this. I just made a list of our players and then went down and assigned a value to them. While sitting on the side of the freeway. Waiting on the tow truck. However, in response to Datsyuk: Yes, I believe that both Kronwall and Howard would get a higher return. Both Kronwall and Howard are currently at the height of their powers, while Datsyuk has arguably started his decline. Also, both have 4 years left on their current contracts, while Dats only has 2 left before he likely calls it a career. As for Ouellet, I agree. I guess I'd change that to a 1st and a mid prospect, or maybe just a first.

No, because they're both massive douchebags.

I think that Crosby and Bieber would make a nice couple.

Trade the bum.

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I'd prefer to keep all of our assets this season and flip a bunch of them to move up at the draft. Dylan Strome maybe? I've seen some mock drafts picking him as low as 10.

Nyquist is equal to Hall. LOL

yeah, its looking pretty iffy right about now...

He's facing 9 years in prison. I'm sure a beating is the least of his worries.

f*** Nyquist, marry Datsyuk, kill Franzen. Nailed it.

There was an article on THN today that claims Murray has acknowledged that his asking prices have been too high.

What is he, 6'6"?