GoalieManPat

Except both were injured before the Olympics....

They did. Vanek is going to command a hell of a lot more money though after this season. I dont think the Wings wanted any part of that.

The Wings next big C to replace Hank and Z wont come in the draft. More than likely it will come in trade or FA. Anyone they draft wont be ready to take over those two's skates in time. Im basing that on I dont see Datsyuk staying past this contract with his want to end his career in Russia.

And if he busts and cant compete at the NHL level then what?? The Wings are still trying to win right now. This fan base would not accept anything else so they went with a proven commodity that can help them now as opposed to a commodity that only has a chance of winning. Legwand is a better hockey player right now than Jarnkrok. When your trying to win now which do you think helps the most? Your putting Jarnkrok on a pedestal that he hasnt earned yet.

Not really. Both were drafted in the same general position. Mathius was expected to be the Wings big scoring power forward of the future. Both were projected to be top 6 for the Wings.

The Wings cant say they knew about it. If they admit they dealt a player that was definitely bolting they would be sanctioned by the league for not negotiating in good faith. It would also prevent other teams from ever trusting the Wings in any deals from then on. They will never admit they knew anything.

People said this same things about Mathius when Holland traded for Bertuzzi initially (who coincidentally was about the same age/place in career as Legwand now) and we know who got the better end of that deal...

Right. Your comparing him to Bert now. Legwand is not 39 and washed up. Hes only 33 so if hes like a 33yr old Bert good deal since he was still a good player back then.

Lol because factual stats dont determine how a good a player is ehh? The Wings are a better team right now than they were at 8am this morning. Dont forget the Wings had Joakin Andersson as there #1 center last night. They needed a center. Sure Jarnkrok was a good prospect but he was doing nothing to help the wings right now. Legwand on the other hand has 40 pts on a bad Nashville team that really doesnt give him much support. He is not the scrub your trying to make him out to be. He will help Detroit. Plus he also brings in something the Wings desperately need.....someone whos healthy. Eaves - No real value. He couldnt crack the lineup even with all the injuries. More than likely the Preds had to take him in the deal more than they sought him out. Jarnkrok - Sure hes a good prospect but hes not the best prospect in the org. If the rumors of him bolting are true then his value is nothing to the Wings. The Wings will never say its true as they could be sanctioned by the league for not negotiating in good faith so we might never know. Nashville also can offer him a roster spot which is something the Wings couldn't for a couple more years. Holland knows a heck of a lot more of the situation than we do. Look how long it took Tatar and Nyquist to be getting minutes in Detroit and they were better prospects at the point of NHL entry than Jarnkrok is. He was atleast 2 years away from meaningful minutes and I dont think he accepts that. Pick - A 4/3 conditional would have been better but this isnt to big of a loss. 2nd rounders are traded all the time and whoever is drafted wouldnt have influenced the Wings for atleast 5 years. Legwand - Aging but still putting up solid numbers for a real bad team. Plays both ends. Sure he could be a rental but thats a rental at a position the Wings NEED someone at right now. Simply put people here are putting Jarnkrok higher on pedestal than he really was and denouncing Legwand more than they should. To put it plainly one is a proven NHL player and the other was a unproven prospect who might have put the Wings in an NHL me or Im bolting situation. Easy call for a GM. Judging by how the game day threads go most fans still want the Wings to be winning right now. If Holland had done nothing or gave up on the season there would be bigger riots here. Hopefully all those raging saying they are done with the Wings hold true to there words. It will be a lot more peaceful here.

Criteria for greatest Wing ever also has to take into account what they did after playing. Gordie for the most part has stayed a part of the WIngs. Hes always around promoting the club. DIdnt he and his wife help form the old Junior Red Wings?

I love Nick.....but Gordie is the greatest Wing

Lets remember that while Mantha is is tearing it up right now hes also playing against boys. Lets see how he does against men in the AHL next season before imagining him on the Wings. He is an exciting prospect though.

Osgood is a terrible color guy. He needs to stay at the intermission desk. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk

If you think someone just stepping up and fighting Neil is going to stop him your delusional. Thats not how the NHL works right now. Sure the Wings could have someone step up and have Neil hand them there teeth. What does Neil beating the crap out of a Wing gain the Wings? Nothing. It will only encourage Neil to do it more as he knows whoever does try and make him answer he will handle easily. Datsyuk fought Perry and held his own. Has that stopped Perry from going after Wings stars? Nope. In your words that would have sent a message and they would have layed off the Wings just because someone fought him. That doesnt happen. Why? Because if that player doesnt take a run at the Wings next game the coach will find someone that will. That player is more in fear of losing his job for not running hard at players than he is about the retaliation he might get in return. The league has handcuffed enforcers so much the last 20 years that they no longer have an effect on the game. Why people seem to think having a tough guy or fighting just to "send a message" will prevent other players from cheapshotting is amazing.

lol Johan just said "Neil likes to show up after the game is over and try and show everyone hes a hero"

Yeah.....not gonna happen.

Who exactly do you expect to do that? The Wings have nobody on the roster that could "feed him his teeth". They have guys who would fight but nobody in Neils class. It would be a decided win for Neil against anyone so whats gained?

Neil is such a ******

Ottawa starting the cheap shots

Sens came out with quite a big of jump. Been a long time since weve seen the Wings get a result in a period like that.

Slow start but now the boys are going. That Ryan miss is looking big now.

Obvious kick

Hes got a good case of the "contract yearitus". Hopefully Holland doesnt fall into his trap. Im not holding my breath though. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Gus just told all you cliff jumpers two pages back to go to bed.

Gaining one is better than dropping back two more. Good lord the last two pages youd think the Wings just lost game 7.