Mudvayneowns91

I don't see why there needs to be Hasek bashing after a pretty solid game tonight. Boo the guy when he does bad, but why talk bad about him after a solid perfomance.

Glad I'm not sounding like a homer (although I don't like the Avs) but you have to like the other 19 Sakic. Did you mean to spell Stastny Statsny? cause I think that could be kinda of a cool nickname. stats-ny.

I wouldn't want a "dirty" team in Detroit. But when you said I agree with that completely. For example, Tues. against Calgary Phaneuf creamed Hudler and I was pissed. Lilja goes after Phaneuf in a fight, but there's like 2 punches landed total and the fight is ended in like 5 seconds because they both slipped. I want some retribution. It'd be nice if we were the ones creaming them a lot more than they are us. I'd love to know that their players need to be extra careful to not do things like skating with their head down around us. Or at least when our players do get rocked...... I'd like to see the favor paid back in full

Have you ever seen Futurama? It could be like how they keep Nixon president like a 1000 years later. Picture Gary

it probably isn't warranted, but I don't like the guy because of the strike. It took two sides to make the problem, but it seemed to me that Gary's sides wasn't as willing to haggle when they were at a standstill.

I'm curious to know if anyone has actually thought Bettman has done a good job while commish. Personally, I think the guy is a pos, but there may be supporters for him. I've never heard anyone say something nice about him though.

Rudy, Cinderella Man and i'll go outside the box with Dodge Ball

That's not really true. The Avs thought that he was coming back. And you can't tell me that the Avs wouldn't say he was going to be retained if Blake didn't make them think otherewise. This article kind of explains it. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/sports/h...amp;oref=slogin .Here's the main quote though cause it talks about a bunch of other people.

Yuck, no way I'd want him. His skills have deminished. Plus I don't like any guy that says he's going to sign with a team and then sign with a nother.

First off, there is NO ONE that is as good as Homer at "parking" in front of the net. Secondly, he's leading the WHOLE NHL in PP goals. Thirdly, Homer is doing more than just "parking" in front. That man gets the crap beat out of him in front and is still able to get a stick on the puck and then get it in the net. Fourth off, if Homer wasn't "parking" in front of the net then Z and Dats wouldn't be scoring the way they have. They all set each other up. Homer just does is a little less conventional. There's no denying that. That's what he brings to the Wings. However, I am still failing to see how you figure just some big body with Dats/Z = success. If that's the case, let's bring Scott Parker and dump him on the first line. Better yet, let's bring Laraque in and see what he can do. I think it's laughable you consider Homer as just some interchangeable big guy.

So Mac is a 35 year old washed up hockey player. What do you consider Drake then? Drake in 05-06 season was 2 G's, 24 A's, +/- of -13 and 59 pims in 62 games. 06-07 season was 6 G's, 6 A's, +/- of - 14 and 38 pims in 60 games. This year if he played the same way he has all year he'd end up with 0 G's, 4 A's, +/- of -33 and 91 pims. How is Mac much worse than that?

I don't see how. Lilja took like 3 or 4 punches and then fell down. That doesn't teach Calgary to not do that again. Having a enforcer that beats the crap out of Phaneuf would of got the point across better. Don't get me wrong though, I'm glad Lilja did stand up for Huds. I just wish the Wings could throw their own weight around in fights.

Downey seemed pretty freaking slow to me yesterday. Not just slow, but Hatcher slow when he played for us.

Do you really think that Drake and Downey are that much better than Mac? At least when something like Hudler gets hit, we wont have to rely on Lilja to do our fights............

Your whole arguement is based on something that hasn't even happened. I would be more inclined to agree if Homer was hurt and Franzen /some big guy was almost as or as successful replacing him. But that hasn't happened. To say that having a big guy in front of the net will automatically have success on our 1st line is pretty unrealistic.

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So Toronto is interested in Stevie, Bowman, Holland or ass. GM Nill? What the crap is that? They should try building a good staff instead of trying to steal all of ours.

When Homer is in front of the net messing with the goalie/defense he takes some of the focus from our star players (Z/Dats). If Hank and Pavel are allowed better shots (result of Homer in front) then they will score more often. Or simply put Homer in front of net = more goals for Hank/Dats

I don't know why only two people have said Phaneuf. I realize we'd have to give up some sort of royalties since he's a rfa. Still though.... That guy is a force on defense. I'd rather have him than any other D guy on there.

Maybe.... The effect that Homer has had while being on a line Z/Dats the last two years is pretty significant though. Last year Dats has his best season and this year Hank is on pace for a career year as well (also same with Homer). I feel they all make each other better, . I don't know if Franzie would have that same impact.

So then do you think that if you did take Homer off the line that Pavel/Hanks production would stay the same?

Dude, the line combo is a two way street. Of course playing with Pavel/Hank makes Homer more productive. But it is also true the other way around. Homer makes Hank and Pavel better. I think you're giving too little credit to Homer. For example, say Hank or Pavel score and Homer doesn't even touch the puck. If Homer isn't busting his ass off to block the goalie's sight, the goalie is more likely to make that save and no goal at all. There's a reason why they play together.... Babs isn't like "Homer sucks, so to make him playable we better put him on a line with our best forwards." edit - spelling

I don't really see how you can say Homer has had only 2 good years with the Wings by just judging his point total. Sure, he didn't give you 30/30 a few years ago. But what the man did do was make it hell for the defense and the goalie. Without him being in front of the net (while getting a beating usually) I seriously doubt the Wings would've as much success. Also, he was a +8 and +11 in 03-04. So even though he wasn't scoring, it wasn't like he was doing a poor job.

It seems to me that the Oilers are kind of like a farm system for the whole league. I realize that they got to the SCF's not to long ago... but everytime they get someone who becomes elite, they just trade them. I just don't see how they can keep getting support if they always are trading their star players just so they can get some more future talent.

As we dream that Gary has no part with the NHL