Curtis Foster out on stretcher.....

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

certainly not intentional and also certainly avoidable. just one of those things that happens from time to time.

i'm on the fence on the whole touch up icing thing. 99 times of 100, icing is called when the opposing team has 3-4 seconds to skate to their end to touch up uncontested. the other time, its a heated battle for the puck sometimes being one that is touched by the offending team first. This may or may not lead to a scoring chance, but i guess i'd like to leave it in for the simple reason that goals ARE scored from time to time on negated icing calls. and anything that subtracts from scoring is LAME if it isn't completely necessary.

i like me some goals. the young stars game that was played 3 on 3 with no stoppages on all-star weekend was wildly entertaining. yes even when ozzie was getting lit up like a christmas tree.

but i digress. hopefully he can make a full recovery from the surgery.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

1) Yes

2) I personally feel that automatic icing is the most annoying thing. In college hockey, where this is the case, it is so frustrating when it is called icing even though your player obviously would've gotten there first. This just adds to the pile-up of stoppages in hockey--something that the league has been trying to minimalize (i.e. touch up offsides, intential passing eliminates an icing). I do understand though the problem that touch-up icing can cause injury, but so can a skate hitting a players neck--but we don't wear neck guards to stop this. I don't know, I just don't like the idea of this.

You do realize that the vast majority of icings result in a whistle. Very seldom does the team icing the puck actually recover it. So your point about the extra whistles really doesn't hold water and it comes down to a safety issue that is easy to resolve.

And as a dman, i'm all for no touch icing.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

As much as I hate injuries, injuries are part of sports, and hard, tough play usually leads to injuries. But no touch icing will slow the game down big time. They have it in College Hockey and its really a drag because it makes the players give up on the play and I really don't like that! I think the NHL would make a huge mistake implenting no touch icing!

This is so much baloney. What are you talking about. Very rarely does the team who iced the puck recover it. I'd say 99% of iced pucks end up with whistles. So the game is being stopped anyway. I'm I speaking fricken Chinese here or something. It amazes me how people can come up with statements like it slows down the game. There's gonna be a ******* whistle anyway. So all you're really doing is arguing for that 1% of the time that the puck is actually recovered by the team that iced it. What does that amount to? A handful of goals here and there all season? Is that really worth the threat of injury to the players for a handful of freaking goals a year and maybe a few less whistles?

Anybody recall the last time a Wings player beat out an icing and it resulted in a goal? Anybody recall that last time any player on any team beat out an icing and it resulted in a goal?

The game is going to be stopped anyway so the whole "it'll slow down the game if we have no touch icing" is the most nonsensical argument i've seen in a long time.