Weight's big hit on Sutter

[eva unit zero 271]

On Weight

I wouldn't call him dirty in the Dale Hunter sense of the term. But honestly, Weight has always annoyed me, which is hard to do as he's a good old American boy. But when he played in St.Louis he always would get in an extra shot or take a jab at somebody. He was always face washing people and hacking guys but would never drop the gloves. He'd just pick his spots. Sort of like Andy MacDonald. Anyway, it always used to piss me off. Yeah, he's not a dirty player. But he ain't no Byng candidate either.

I remember a not so nice move on Bryan Marchment. Yes, Marchment was a dirty player and Weight was retaliating. But it doesn't make it right the way Weight blindsided him in the face and went about his retribution. Man up and drop the gloves, do it the right way. I can't find a video but it's pretty vicious. With Weight basically cross checking Mush in the face when he didn't expect it and then after Mush is laying on the ice Weight starts teeing off on his head. Marchment ended up being okay but if somebody did that today, they'd be looking at 25-50 game suspension. Weight ended up, fittingly, with 39 penalty minutes on that play alone.

You're talking about right after Weight came back from a knee injury, and Mush laid him out clean at center ice, right? So clearly clean that Laraque was told by coach Craig MacTavish not to go after him? And then when Weight went nuts, speared him, and went after him with the stick and started hitting him and the refs basically went 'oh well.' and went about their business like it was nothing.

EDIT: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2000/12/29/march001229.html

Edited October 29, 2008 by eva unit zero

[YoungGuns1340 1]

I dont see what the problem is. The hit wouldn't have been so bad if Sutter hadn't put his head down at the last minute. Is that Sutters fault? Absolutely not. Is that Weights fault? Absolutely not. Between the time Weight made the decision to go for the hit and the time it took Sutter to lean his head down was not enough time for Weight to react. If Sutter has his head up, its shoulder to chest, Sutter goes flying, is a little woozy, and gets right back on the ice the next shift.

I'm not even a fan of Weight - dont care for him much - but I hate when people analyze this s*** to death. We're talking about split seconds that changed the situation entirely. Unfortunate event for both sides.

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

i love the hits kronner brings to the table, but you gotta admit he leaves his feet on 50% of those body shattering blows. eliminate that and he is lethal, AND completely legal.

as for the sutter/weight hit. hit of the year thus far and 100% w/o question legal and good for the game.

[CrossoverThrash 0]

i love the hits kronner brings to the table, but you gotta admit he leaves his feet on 50% of those body shattering blows. eliminate that and he is lethal, AND completely legal.

as for the sutter/weight hit. hit of the year thus far and 100% w/o question legal and good for the game.

Sometime's Kronwall leaves his feet after contact, its just the way he hits, such a small body making those giant hits, he has to use an upward motion to draw the guy off his skates.

[CrossoverThrash 0]

I dont see what the problem is. The hit wouldn't have been so bad if Sutter hadn't put his head down at the last minute. Is that Sutters fault? Absolutely not. Is that Weights fault? Absolutely not. Between the time Weight made the decision to go for the hit and the time it took Sutter to lean his head down was not enough time for Weight to react. If Sutter has his head up, its shoulder to chest, Sutter goes flying, is a little woozy, and gets right back on the ice the next shift.

I'm not even a fan of Weight - dont care for him much - but I hate when people analyze this s*** to death. We're talking about split seconds that changed the situation entirely. Unfortunate event for both sides.

So it is Sutter's fault for leaning his head down towards the puck.

[Opie 308]

So it is Sutter's fault for leaning his head down towards the puck.

Exactly, ever hear of the Trolley track, some times a guy passes the puck right on the trolley track and when the skater has his head down to look for the puck he better be watching for the trolley.

Paul Kariya, in the infamous he is dead, no wait he is alive hit from Stevens, where was his head, watching his pass, then BOOOOOM goodnight!

That is where all of the Keep you head up, head on a swivel and other sayings come from.

It is as much my responsibility to not put myself in a vulnerable position as much as it is your responsibility to not hit me IF you see me in a vulnerable postion.

Lemieux's hit on Draper was, imo, hitting a guy in a vulnerable position when he could have stopped. Weight could have stopped, had he decided to not hit Sutter before Sutter had his head down. Once his head was down Weight was committed to the hit.

Edited October 29, 2008 by Opie

[theswede 0]

It is as much my responsibility to not put myself in a vulnerable position as much as it is your responsibility to not hit me IF you see me in a vulnerable postion.

Pretty much says it all

You cant play real hockey while being afraid others might get injured if you hit them with a (legal) hard check just because they are careless. And it might also cause other problems, I really dislike players who intentionaly put themselves in vulnerable situations along the boards looking to be hit from behind. And to reply to the topic: Just an amazing hit made dangerous by Sutter himself.

[FGisGood 0]

Clean hit; welcome to the NHL Sutter

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Guy's who watch thier passes or are not looking for the guy coming out of the box have only themselves to blame, in the tolley tracks situation, its maybe 25% the D man's fault but the player receiving the pass should at least look up before or keep thier head up the whole time and be aware if a big hitter is on the ice.

[Opie 308]

In lieu of starting another thread here are Jordin Tootoo's thoughts:

"If my head's down, my head's down. If he hits me, he hits me," said Tootoo. Just another consideration in a still-simmering League-wide debate.

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