wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 17, 2009 100% agreed when it comes to letting McCrimmon go, and finding a better D coach. If it was one thing, besides the lack of motivation, this year that stood out, it was our issues defensively and the detour away from our puck possession style. Why are people talking about Maltby coming back when he brings nothing to the table anymore? I would so much rather have Gator or a younger more physical semi cheap UFA in his spot. Dude is done, and we have been loyal to him, but if you cant make the team and you hurt it when you are on it, you should be cut. His Salary doesnt count if he retires. Ditto for Homer. *****On a side note to all those who want to trade Rafalski, has anyone thought that we have absolutely NOBODY to play the Right Handed Shot on the Power Play??!!! Sammy is on that spot on the 2nd Power Play Unit, and everyone says hes gone too, so, wtf do we do? Power play will be a tad lacking. Being that there are about two powerplays a game in the SCFs, who really cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Probie 7 Report post Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) Being that there are about two powerplays a game in the SCFs, who really cares?I know what you are saying but... I would rather have someone bigger and more physical with more gas in the tank, that can help wear down a team during a series. We lack that. The ducks wore us out with big physical players. It would be good if we could do that to an extent. Plus having a guy like Neil for example helps protects our players from injuries. Just a thought. I love this team but we are soft and not big/physical enough. Our guys were afraid to retrieve the puck in our own end in game 7 of the scf because they were afraid of getting hit, and the pens would end up with possession of the puck. We need grinders on the forth line, Drapes and Maltby didnt bring that this year, others can. When you see a weakness, you try to improve it. Go check out Drapers stats from 2005 to 2009: Drapers Stats You see a steady year to year decline in points per game from 05 to now, and more or less the same thing with plus minus. Hes not the same guy IMO when I watch the games this year compared to 4 years ago. At what point do you sacrifice the betterment of the team over blind lotalty? We brought him here when no one wanted him, he was bought for a measely dollar. He's made good money, won a bunch of cups, was treated like gold for 16 seasons here, we halped make him who he is!! Asking him to say bye bye or sticking him on the LTIR is an advantage. This team needs fresh blood, size, grit and toughness. Lets look at Maltby: Maltbys Stats So from 2000 till the lockout buddy put up points and had a good plus minus. After that when hes past his prime physically, his production and plus minus drops off drastically, its night and day, its like two different players. He averages 25 points and plus 18 for four years, then its 10 points and -9 average for the four years afterwords. Maltby is a long for the ride at this point. I would hands down bring in Abdelkader over both guys and ditto for Neil, or Moen, etc. If Gator makes a rookie mistake every once in a blue moon, it would be fivefold made up with added speed, battles won for the puck, physicality, energy, and I'm sorry to say at this stage skill. Its time for both maltby and Draper to move on The whole blurb above is not aimed at you, I'm just speaking my mind. Dont take it the wrong way A lot of people forget what the loyalty concept is all about. By showing great loyalty and treatment to the players, more skilled players end up coming here as a whole, which benefits the team, even when you let a few of them hang on for a bit at a small expense to the team. But the whole reason for doing so is to better the team, so when it starts to hurt the team and its not going to hurt your loyalty reputation, you make the changes IMO. Edited June 17, 2009 by Probie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 17, 2009 I like how we were 2 posts away from winning the Cup and all of a sudden everyone wants to tear the core of our team apart. Quoted for truthiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talex 1 Report post Posted June 17, 2009 (edited) I personally would not be so fast to move anyone, had this team not been banged up we would have the cup right now. Draper and Maltby may not have put up points but it seemed there was quite a few times when they were on the ice and calmed the momentum down, on a fourth line I would take both. That said, I am still puzzled as to why Babbs took out Abby, he scored goals in the 1st 2 games and was Red hot... I thought he should have let Abby and Leino play at least until they were a liability with how the SCF started... maybe that's just me. McCrimmon - Out, Give Cheli at a shot at his position (I like the burgers at his chilli bars)... Edited June 17, 2009 by talex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
