Could Eaves be put on waivers?

[stevkrause 1,247]

That wasn't a discussion about top 6 or not. Eva suggested Eaves play on a line with Datsyuk over Cleary, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc. Not an effective use of assets.

Also Eaves scored 20 goals his rookie year. Five years ago.

I like the guy and everything but he is doing well in the position he plays. We shouldn't suddenly start saying "hey Eaves top line nao?" just because he scored a nice goal on a 2 on 1.

I thought we were back on this thread, not the one from the summer... I suggested that Eaves be given a look here and there and in turn, spell Holmstrom a few even strength minutes by bumping Eaves up for a couple shifts, that is what I was regarding -

I think you're on the right track with this thought, but a little off... I think Eaves has all the skill and ability to play a top line role, plus one hell of a shot... I wouldn't have a problem at all with Eaves getting a FEW shifts here and there with the top unit and Holmstrom's minutes reduced, but this should not be a constant...

Maybe distribute the minutes as so:

ZDH - 16mins

ZDE - 6mins

Homer still all PP time and Eaves killing penalties, plus his 4th line minutes as normal... essentially what this would end up doing with minute distribution would be getting Holmer's minutes down a little on 5-5 and saving his legs and giving Eaves a shot to show what he can do, while giving him a few more minutes a game...

[eva unit zero 271]

That wasn't a discussion about top 6 or not. Eva suggested Eaves play on a line with Datsyuk over Cleary, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc. Not an effective use of assets.

Also Eaves scored 20 goals his rookie year. Five years ago.

I like the guy and everything but he is doing well in the position he plays. We shouldn't suddenly start saying "hey Eaves top line nao?" just because he scored a nice goal on a 2 on 1.

Have you noticed that often players don't necessarily have a similar level of playing time as their linemates? Eaves and Datsyuk playing as regular linemates doesn't mean Eaves is being played more than Franzen. It means he is being played alongside Datsyuk because it helps maximize his skill set to place him with a playmaking center such as Datsyuk.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Have you noticed that often players don't necessarily have a similar level of playing time as their linemates? Eaves and Datsyuk playing as regular linemates doesn't mean Eaves is being played more than Franzen. It means he is being played alongside Datsyuk because it helps maximize his skill set to place him with a playmaking center such as Datsyuk.

I didn't say that. I said I don't believe Eaves being put with Datsyuk makes sense when there are other players who would more likely thrive on his line than Eaves. Eaves has thrived so far in the fourth line. I think it makes sense to keep him there until the opportunity arises where he can prove himself.

[stevkrause 1,247]

So... what was that all the naysayers were saying about Eaves not belonging on a wing with Dats and Z??

Apparently Babs thought it was worth enough of a look to try it for several shifts tonight and he looked pretty damn comfortable to me, you know, with the line scoring our only even strength goal and all...

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

So... what was that all the naysayers were saying about Eaves not belonging on a wing with Dats and Z??

Apparently Babs thought it was worth enough of a look to try it for several shifts tonight and he looked pretty damn comfortable to me, you know, with the line scoring our only even strength goal and all...

Eaves played well.

So what?

[stevkrause 1,247]

Eaves played well.

So what?

You just answered your own question before you asked it.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

You just answered your own question before you asked it.

So having one good game and being part of a goal that his line-mate created by himself justifies the sentiment that he should be put on the first line?

Kopecky ******* had a goal his first game with Datsyuk and Hossa.

[stevkrause 1,247]

So having one good game and being part of a goal that his line-mate created by himself justifies the sentiment that he should be put on the first line?

Kopecky ******* had a goal his first game with Datsyuk and Hossa.

Weak argument and you know it... the point through the entire debate here, was that he be given a look here and there and given a chance to show IF he can do more, never that he be given top 6 minutes overnight or uncontested... and so far, he's done that. Period.

[BUHdactyl 23]

Eaves is a grinding player because that's the role he's been given. Just because he goes out there and kills penalties and makes things rough for the opposition does not mean he wouldn't be good with a scoring role. When we claimed him off waivers I doubt we had a scoring role in mind for him. It was a depth move and he's got the heart to go out there and do anything we ask him to do - that's what we call a team player people.

Giving him an opportunity on the top line is a good idea because we lose nothing from it. As stated before, you could play anyone with Z and Dats and they'd likely do well, so we wouldn't be compromising the first line. On top of that, he does have a rocket of a shot and very likely has some offensive talent lying dormant which could be unleashed with top line minutes and linemates like Z and Datsyuk... A few games on the top line could potentially increase our scoring depth. Why not? If he sucks at it he goes back to the 4th line and kills penalties like a pro... whatever.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Weak argument and you know it... the point through the entire debate here, was that he be given a look here and there and given a chance to show IF he can do more,

I was contesting the idea that Eaves should be put on the top line regularly. That does not make sense considering Holmstrom is only useful at this point on a line with either Datsyuk or Zetterberg.

never that he be given top 6 minutes overnight or uncontested... and so far, he's done that. Period.

Like I said, one game doesn't make a player.

[stevkrause 1,247]

I was contesting the idea that Eaves should be put on the top line regularly. That does not make sense considering Holmstrom is only useful at this point on a line with either Datsyuk or Zetterberg

Like I said, one game doesn't make a player.

If that was what you were contesting, then why are you arguing my posts, when that is NEVER what I suggested in the first place and in a beligerent manner at that?

Next, just as one game does not make a player, just because a player excels at one apect of the game and accepts that role with dignity, as a team player, does not mean that said role is ALL they are capable of.

[chellfairy 8]

Eaves better be careful his head might explode one of these days

Awwwe.........look how happy he is!!!!!!!! That's not a swelled head, he looks like a little kid, like he is surprised he made it. Regardless, I say more of those Eaves........keep it up!

Edited October 19, 2010 by chellfairy

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

If that was what you were contesting, then why are you arguing my posts, when that is NEVER what I suggested in the first place and in a beligerent manner at that?

Next, just as one game does not make a player, just because a player excels at one apect of the game and accepts that role with dignity, as a team player, does not mean that said role is ALL they are capable of.

You responded to me when I responded to eva.

[chellfairy 8]

Don't waive Eaves, he broke Versteeg's nose.

esteef

:clap:GO EAVES:P

[stevkrause 1,247]

You responded to me when I responded to eva.

to a point that had relevance to the reply it was related to... where are you going with this?

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

to a point that had relevance to the reply it was related to... where are you going with this?

What you said isn't necessarily what Eva said.

Eva wanted Eaves on the top line. I didn't see how that was a reasonable idea. Also nothing I said was belligerent.

Edited October 19, 2010 by Doc Holliday

[stevkrause 1,247]

What you said isn't necessarily what Eva said.

Eva wanted Eaves on the top line. I didn't see how that was a reasonable idea. Also nothing I said was belligerent.

Even Eva had not suggested full time Eaves minutes on that line in this thread, that was a post made over 4 months ago, but that's a whole different topic and there appears to be some bad blood between you two that I'm not taking either side of...

my point is, as I've maintained all along, that I was merely suggesting that Eaves get a look here and there and if it works, fantastic, and also that he DOES have the shot and speed to make it worthwhile to take a look at... the problems I had with your retorts were that you were replying in a pretty much "all or nothing" manner every time...

also, mentioning Kopecky is belligerent