LOL. I have a degree in history as well. I just don't use it to justify shortsighted points and reinforce it with s***ty logic. But you do, so that's cool. But you say you are a historian so…
Problem for you is, he's actually making relevant points, you're just saying "no you're wrong" without any support whatsoever. He's right, Philly does have the worst fans, it's a fairly widely known fact. Obviously not everyone is a bad fan, but too many are and they give the entire fan base a bad name.
Colin Campbell got dumped on for not being consistent with punishments, not being transparent, and basically being a dillhole about the whole thing. Brendan Shanahan has been very consistent with punishments, has been very transparent about the process, and has not been acting like a dillhole about the whole thing.
Someone want to explain to me why Shanny's getting the same level of s*** flung at him Colin Campbell did? He's doing his job. A job the person who held it previous to him did NOT do. Maybe you're all so shell-shocked by the sight of someone in charge in the league not being a world-class f*** up, you don't know what to do. It's okay. Remain calm.
Completely agree. Hits are fine. Hits to the head are not. Someone WILL die from a hit to the head if they aren't dealt with. Careers have been ended by hits to the head. Saying 3 games is too little for potentially ending someones career, or life is ridiculous. I don't care if they were considered good hockey hits in the past. They used to not wear helmets at all in hockey, that doesn't mean it was good for the game though. Use a little common sense here guys.
Cleary has been terrible, he's failing passes, he's failing fighting for the puck, he's failing on his dump ins, he's failing on scoring. The only thing he's not failing at is playing on his ass.
Based on your logic, Jiri Hudler is the best player on the team. The Huds/Dats/Cleary line was the best line to start, but it was broken up because the second line didn't look good; he was switched with Z. So then, the Filppula/Franzen/Hudler line went on a tear. Washington game, Hudler was taken off that line. He gets moved to Helm's line, and suddenly everyone is talking about how great that line is doing, but Flip and Franzen aren't scoring anymore. Case closed.
Of course you turn this into a Hudler thread. I will not encourage this with any other response.
For the record, Hudler started on a line with Franzen and Fil, which was the best line. He didn't start with Dats.
You neglect to mention that he was swapped with Franzen. The latter is the team's best goal-scoring forward, and he's a big body. Cleary is not as good as Franzen. Nobody is disputing this. Swapping a better player out for a player who is not as good will make a line perform with lesser efficiency. Case closed.
Actually no, Cleary just makes whichever line he's on worse. If you're watching the games I'm not sure how you could dispute it.
Our D does miss Rafalski like we all knew we would. White has fit in well, I've been happy with his play. Nick has been outstanding as usual but he can't do it all by himself. We need guys like Kronwall, Hudler, Ericsson, Fillpula, Helm, Abdelkader and Cleary to step up but they aren't. Even if Dats, Z and Mule start playing well again, if we don't have proper balance we're not going anywhere anyway.
Do you watch the games? Fil has been BY FAR one of our best forwards, and hardest working. Also check the stats page. 2nd in points, tied for first in +/- (I realize +/- is lame, but still makes a point). If you're going to make us read something that long, at least put correct information in it.
Cleary and Bertuzzi, in particular, have looked god awful. I'd like to see us get younger at the deadline as well as in the offseason.
Cleary not only doesn't improve the line he's on, he just downright hurts it. He gives up the puck too often, his passing is terrible, and all he does when entering the zone is shoot it in then lose it. I don't understand why he's still getting top 6 minutes.
Also, on Homer, yeah, he may be giving it his all, but that doesn't mean he deserves top play time. Helm gives his all every game but he's not put on the top line. Yeah, he sits in front of the net, but if you put someone skilled there, we shouldn't even need an in front of the net presence. Not very many teams use players in front of the net because they simply put players who can score on the line. I realize we don't have those players right now, and like someone said above, it's the management's fault for not acquiring them.
I know tonight was a special teams fest at times, but still.
The guy is worthless. More often than not he’s a healthy scratch, but when he isn’t, he barely plays. I know they want Smith playing heavy minutes in Grand Rapids, but would he learn more practising alongside Lids and Kronwall ect or by playing 20 minutes a night in GR? Honestly, I'd rather be playing Smith and letting him learn and familiarise to the NHL now than wait another season.
If we waived Commodore, would anyone claim him?
You realize he was injured during the first part of the season, right? That may be part of why he didn't play those games >.>