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F*** YOU Filppula: seriously, how many times does the coaching staff have to tell you to shoot before you actually start shooting? you may be the most frustrating player on this team because of your reluctance to use your talent. (1 shot against Calgary)

Fil was either on the 3rd line, or him and Dats had to make up for Clearing giving the puck away every damn time he has it.  I cringe every time Cleary, Bert, Franzen, or Hudler touches the damn puck.  That said, yes, Fil still needs to shoot more, but at least he's useful when he's not shooting, unlike those 4 shmucks.

OT:

F*** YOU DUMP AND CHASE GAME (CLEARY, KNOCK IT THE F*** OFF).

F*** MOST OF THE PEOPLE ALREADY f***ED HERE.

In all seriousness, why the f*** are we rewarding these four players after they've played like s*** this entire fricken year?  It's now too far into the season to be pulling the "it's only X games into the season" bulls***.

This team has a problem, people who REALLY don't deserve it keep getting way too much fricken ice time, and people who are playing well are shafted.  How many damn times do we have to give Cleary, Bert, Franzen, and Hudler chances just to see em failing miserably?  I don't care how much they get paid, they're failing hardcore and until they're demoted to 3rd and 4th line, or sat entirely, they're going to continue failing because they have no sense of urgency whatsoever.

Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary

Franzen-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi

Filppula-Helm-Abdelkader

Miller-Emmerton-Holmstrom

Patrick Eaves did not practice. Babcock said he had a "maintenance day'' and his status in uncertain for Thursday's game against Calgary (7:30 p.m., Fox Sports Net Detroit).


On defense, nothing changed:

Lidstrom-White

Kronwall-Stuart

Ericsson-Kindl

Commodore


Howard

Conklin


http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/11/red_wings_split_up_pavel_datsy.html

Seriously?  These lines are going in the wrong direction.

Our second tier players just have this nasty habbit of going cold all at the same time for a lengthy stretch. Also Z needs to get going.

Inconsistency is what makes second tier players second tier, though I wish they wouldn't be so inconsiderate and do it all at the same time  

Then go ahead and change it.

I guess we may as well just change the website name to "Lets go Crymson" since you're obviously the only one that matters.

So after the last game vs the Wild, I've come to the decision that coaching is still a problem.  I'm not nearly as confident in Babcock anymore.  He's consistently giving players chances that have proven time and time again that they don't deserve them (Cleary, Holmstrom), he refuses to put players together that have worked incredibly well in the past (Dats and Fil), and in the last 5 minutes of the game, he played the same line for seemingly 80% of the time.  I don't care how good a line is, those players are going to be too tired to be effective.

We need better decisions behind the bench.  We need players who are consistently playing badly to be pushed down to lower lines, so at least they get hungry for top line minutes again.  Currently we're just handing players playtime who don't deserve it.  

Players like Helm and Fil, who are working their asses off every game aren't getting chances they deserve either.  They've been two of the best players this year, and two of the players that are giving more effort than pretty much anyone else on the team.

Dats, Z, and whoever isn't working.  They played great for one game, but just plain haven't worked for a long time now.  Z still has 3 points and a -4 and yet was given nearly 24 minutes.  I don't understand how it works if players who are working hard are still not given opportunities when other players are playing like this.  What kind of motivation is it to work hard if someone who's not producing is still given nearly 10 minutes more per game than you and much more PP time than you?

Edit: I'm not bashing Z, I'm just saying he hasn't deserved the play time he's gotten recently.  Other players who are playing badly are getting time taken away, but Z is just handed more play time every game no matter how he plays.  Same thing goes for a few other players too.

He's a top-six forward in the KHL.

I c wut u did thar.

Blaming Claude Giroux for this hit?  These announcers are such tools...

I understand why he did it, but he did the same thing throughout the entire season last season and none of the players looked like they could trust the other players.  I also think one bad period is absolutely no reason to break up lines.  Lines are going to have bad nights, and to me breaking up a line for having a bad night shows no trust in your lines.

Haha, you haven't watched the Babcock coached Wings very much I take it.

Actually I do, the above reason is why it's irritating to me.

So not even 2 periods into the second game of the season and Babcock is already changing up the lines.  I realize that the lines didn't look too good in the first period, but how the hell does he expect any chemistry to be built up between players when he doesn't even keep them together for two games?

I dunno why Fil keeps getting thrown in the 'potential trade bait' pile...  Holland and Babcock have never once even remotely implied that Fil could be traded.  According to pretty much every account, they're happy with him.

Rafalski retiring makes this summer much different than we all expected.  A trade or two is likely to be made, and that could change the team drastically depending on who's traded.  My question is, who REALISTICALLY could be traded?  Is anyone outside of Dats and Z safe?  I know some players have no trade clauses so they're not going anywhere, but after the playoffs I think it'd be hard for them to trade a player like Fil or Bert (think Bert has a NTC anyway).  So who's safe and who should be worried?

Haha, f*** this. I really hope that half of thesef****** terrible players on Detroit aren't on the roster next year. f*** the Sharks. GO EAST!

Go find a different team, you seem like the type of "fan" jumps to whichever bandwagon is doing the best.

You guys are funny.  Did you all conveniently forget about the first part of the season when the 2nd line literally carried the team?  The first line played like crap in the beginning, now they've gotten their game going.  The 2nd line isn't doing worse now than the 1st line did at the beginning of the season, yet you all just said "it's only the beginning of the season, they'll get better!!!111!".  Open your eyes, lines play better and worse as the season progresses.  The 2nd line is in a slump right now.  Deal with it, they'll get better again.  The first line will drop in production for a few games, it's going to happen.  It does every single year, yet the majority of the people posting here can so easily forget the entire rest of the season and isolate 5 games out and say how everyone on x line needs to be traded because they suck.  How about you try to make valid points and take the ENTIRE season into consideration besides just a few bad games??

http://redwings.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=45039

bout time! hope its good.

Hopefully they get it out on Android soon too.

The excuse that the injury wasn't as serious is appalling.  Just because it wasn't doesn't mean it couldn't have been.  Aren't they trying to stop the injuries before they happen instead of dealing with the consequences and the player after a serious injury happens?  Does a player have to die before the NHL will start taking these hits more seriously?  Yeah, Ovi was a repeat offender, he got 2 games.  All it takes is 1 hit to end someones career, which could be by someone who isn't a repeat offender.  Give Hossa at least one, or at the very least kick him from the current game.  What good are rules if they can continually make exceptions to them?