Official 2008 Playoff Picks Game Final Results

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Thanks to all 138 of you that participated and congratulations to winsgnut_19 for winning our game (even though he can't type/spell his own S/N correctly ) with a final score of 94 out of possible 120 points!

Rank - Player - Mid-Round Score

1 winsgnut_19 94

2 Lidstrom5 D-Man 91

2 UKWING 91

4 Ontario Wingsfan 88

5 rwfan007 86

6 Wildwings44 85

7 Doggy 84

7 wingsgirl001 84

9 Frozen-Man 83

9 HockeyCrazy3033 83

11 Wings_Dynasty 82

11 Z and D for the C 82

13 Dano33 81

13 interminded 81

13 scotvm 81

13 tweekvp 81

13 wings1fan19 81

18 3dominikhasek9 79

18 johnnyoski 79

18 Never Forget Mac #25 79

18 Shaman464 79

22 55fan 78

22 Batigol2k 78

24 redwinger4747 77

24 redwings2002 77

24 redwingslady87 77

27 Breadgy 76

27 JayUp88 76

29 dallas27 75

29 Echolalia 75

29 edicius 75

29 Firehawk 75

29 pjgj13 75

34 Hockey13Playa 73

35 pavyaz19 72

35 RedWingedKitten 72

37 Eva Unit Zero 70

37 vangvace 70

37 wingsfan40 70

37 zetterisbetter 70

41 GoWings1905 69

41 McCartyFanForLife 69

41 PunkChildP 69

41 The Nephilim 69

45 dgodzina 68

45 Welt 68

47 -=Red_Force=- 67

47 FinWing 67

47 Giant Robot 67

47 IceMunkee 67

47 marcaractac 67

47 russianswede919293 67

53 Aussie_Wing 66

54 CaliWingsNut 65

55 OsGOD 64

55 StaticWithABeat 64

57 #19=Legend 63

57 captainsteviey 63

57 PashaFan 63

60 jim3033 62

60 Wingslogo19 62

62 BlackhawksFan 61

63 naranja 60

63 sibiriak 60

65 RedStormRising 59

66 aflac9262 57

66 puckhead 57

68 awingsincebirth 56

68 Reds4Life 56

70 Dominator2005 55

70 Saran 55

72 calfan 54

72 Donohue75 54

72 FinRedWing 54

72 juice71285 54

76 WhiteLightning91 53

77 ashenhigh 52

77 VM1138 52

79 Bluedevils_13 51

80 hckypete96 49

81 redwingrob 47

81 wingsfan979802 47

83 This Is Bida 46

84 Majsheppard 45

85 CupChamps979802 43

86 Herr Hockey 42

86 Kp-Wings 42

86 Redwingsfan18 42

86 WiNgSowN 42

90 hillbillywingsfan 41

90 TRD604 41

90 T-Ruff 41

93 Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 40

93 Gutierrez 40

93 lets go pavel 40

93 Lou-Siffer 40

97 12Newf 39

97 Barrie 39

97 Lebda22 39

97 Superman54 39

97 ultrapail 39

102 Drake_Marcus 38

103 evil204 35

103 tazzer82 35

103 TheHoff 35

103 #96 35

107 omnipotent_hudler 34

107 RedLightGoesOn 34

107 Vladinator 34

107 Yzerman191 34

107 yzershanafan 34

112 Hank=FutureCaptain 33

112 hoogs 33

112 The_Clear(y)_Picture 33

115 KillerB14 32

115 Never_Retire_Steve 32

115 shannyfan1414 32

115 timothy1997 32

119 mmorland 31

120 CrossCheck24 28

121 bellarina 27

122 F.Michael 26

123 Magus Relmyn 25

124 Pletzke26 22

125 PhoenixAD 21

125 redwing_sparty 21

127 Hockeytown0001 20

127 Beeryce 20

127 Sgt Sharpie 20

130 bluejackets61 19

130 Real1 19

132 WingsWingsWings 14

132 WingsWingsWings-Wife 14

133 Duck Guy 13

135 swedeforall 7

135 Red Flying Wing 7

135 ZETTERBERGPWN 7

135 sixer 7

Edited June 6, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[wingsgirl001 983]

Congrats to the winner!!

I'll gladly take 7th place

Thanks Mac for doing this, too!

Edited June 5, 2008 by wingsgirl001

[Aussie_Wing 354]

Well done winsgnut_19.

At least I got the Final correct, Wings in 6.

Thanks Mac for all the hard work!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Before I forget, I also wanted to open this thread up to discuss potential rule changes for next year. Please feel free to post ideas within this thread.

Earlier in the playoffs, we mentioned having a weighted point system that got heavier as the playoffs got deeper.

Suggestions?

[timothy1997 0]

Before I forget, I also wanted to open this thread up to discuss potential rule changes for next year. Please feel free to post ideas within this thread.

Earlier in the playoffs, we mentioned having a weighted point system that got heavier as the playoffs got deeper.

Suggestions?

I am up for either a weighted point system or all picks due before the start of the playoffs like the march madness NCAA tournament bracket....

or you can do just what I did and after your out in the early rounds like this year...go against the grain, picking against the Red Wings and hope your wrong.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I am up for either a weighted point system or all picks due before the start of the playoffs like the march madness NCAA tournament bracket....

or you can do just what I did and after your out in the early rounds like this year...go against the grain, picking against the Red Wings and hope your wrong.

We can't do that though because of reseeding. Well, I guess we could but you would have a lot of people that get eliminated fairly early if there's a great deal of upsets.

[timothy1997 0]

We can't do that though because of reseeding. Well, I guess we could but you would have a lot of people that get eliminated fairly early if there's a great deal of upsets.

you could do something like this.

here are the seeds for the West

#1 Detroit

#2 San Jose

#3 Minnesota

#4 Anaheim

#5 Dallas

#6 Colorado

#7 Calgary

#8 Nashville

You would pick the 4 teams to advance to divisonal, 2 teams to advance to conference finals , and the 1 team to advance to stanley cup finals

Example

To Divisonal:

Detroit, Calgary, Minnesota, Anaheim

To Conference:

Detroit, Anaheim

To Stanley Cup:

Detroit

The hardest part is making sure that everyone knows that they reseed after the first round. Other than that its a pretty simple format. Maybe we can have 2 playoff games next year. I wouldnt mind keeping track of this game next year.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

^ Yeah, I understand the thought process behind how it would work, but I just wonder if people would or wouldn't want to have the chance of all their teams being eliminated very early.

I just think there's gotta be a weighted system or some other bonus structure we could add to this game to make it uber-exciting right down to the wire. The thing is, with the flat scoring system that is currently used if you're not up near the top after the first round, you're SOL. The fact of the matter is that there are 64 potential points in the first round, and 56 combined potential points in the final three rounds.

Perhaps, we weight the amount of points you get for picking the correct series winner as the rounds progress?

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

How about this: Instead of giving away 5 points for each winner in each round, we give away 5 points for the first round winners, 7 for the second, 9 for the third and 11 for the SCF's? Keep the games played bonus structure the same, but weight the series winners that people get correct.

Or we could do 4 points for the first round, than 6 for the second, 8 for the third and 10 for the SCF's (or even 4-8-12-16 respectively). Obviously, this would put an even greater emphasis on the later rounds.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

Woohoo, 69 points... not a bad number

As far as rule changes, here are a couple suggestions

1) Have everyone pick the Eastern and Western Conference Champions and the Stanley Cup Champion at the beginning of the 1st round. Give bonus points at the end if the picks turn out correctly. 3 points each???

2) For the Final Round, have everyone pick the total goals scored for both teams. More bonus points in the final round to make it interesting. Can also predict other things: PP %, total shots, etc. I wouldn't do that in the earlier rounds; way too many games and I'm sure a pain to keep track of.

Other than that, it was a fun game to play. Hats off to NFM!!!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Woohoo, 69 points... not a bad number

As far as rule changes, here are a couple suggestions

1) Have everyone pick the Eastern and Western Conference Champions and the Stanley Cup Champion at the beginning of the 1st round. Give bonus points at the end if the picks turn out correctly. 3 points each???

2) For the Final Round, have everyone pick the total goals scored for both teams. More bonus points in the final round to make it interesting. Can also predict other things: PP %, total shots, etc. I wouldn't do that in the earlier rounds; way too many games and I'm sure a pain to keep track of.

Other than that, it was a fun game to play. Hats off to NFM!!!

Those are great suggestions! I especially like the first one.

[timothy1997 0]

How about this: Instead of giving away 5 points for each winner in each round, we give away 5 points for the first round winners, 7 for the second, 9 for the third and 11 for the SCF's? Keep the games played bonus structure the same, but weight the series winners that people get correct.

Or we could do 4 points for the first round, than 6 for the second, 8 for the third and 10 for the SCF's (or even 4-8-12-16 respectively). Obviously, this would put an even greater emphasis on the later rounds.

I think points should double per round

1-2-4-8..something like that. make a rule that you have to make all your picks and not join in for the later rounds under that system.

If I get 1 outta 4 series and you get 2 outta 4 series right in the first round but we both get everything right from the 2nd round and beyond....you want to make sure that you are ahead of me in points.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I think points should double per round

1-2-4-8..something like that. make a rule that you have to make all your picks and not join in for the later rounds under that system.

If I get 1 outta 4 series and you get 2 outta 4 series right in the first round but we both get everything right from the 2nd round and beyond....you want to make sure that you are ahead of me in points.

I like that alot too, but I worry about the bonus points for picking the correct series score. I wanted to make sure that people were rewarded for picking the correct series winner first and foremost, and then after that you got bonus points that (at best) couldn't touch the amount of points you were getting for picking the series winner.

As it stands right now, if we went with the 1-2-4-8 system, one could get 1 point for guessing the correct winner of the series and an additional 3 for getting the series score exact (which would be 75% of that rounds points). That seems a little to much weight on picking the correct series score. What do you think?

The key here is adding points to keep the game interesting, but at the same time keeping the weighting somewhat in balance with the bonus points.

[redwings2002 0]

congrats to winsgnut_19 for winning.

I will take 24th place.

Thanks to Mac for running this.

[timothy1997 0]

I like that alot too, but I worry about the bonus points for picking the correct series score. I wanted to make sure that people were rewarded for picking the correct series winner first and foremost, and then after that you got bonus points that (at best) couldn't touch the amount of points you were getting for picking the series winner.

As it stands right now, if we went with the 1-2-4-8 system, one could get 1 point for guessing the correct winner of the series and an additional 3 for getting the series score exact (which would be 75% of that rounds points). That seems a little to much weight on picking the correct series score. What do you think?

The key here is adding points to keep the game interesting, but at the same time keeping the weighting somewhat in balance with the bonus points.

Do you want to then award a point for picking it correctly, and then taking points off or awarding nothing for missing the mark.

[rwfan007 18]

Nice... I will gladly take 5th out of 135. Thanks for the work Mac

[Dano33 41]

I liked the way it has been set up already, i think if there are going to be changes the only one i would personally choose is heavier points as we get deeper in the playoffs.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Do you want to then award a point for picking it correctly, and then taking points off or awarding nothing for missing the mark.

Thats an option as well.

Perhaps something like 4-8-12-16, and then +1 if you get the series score exact, 0 if you're off by one, -1 if you're off by two, and -2 if you're off by three.

[timothy1997 0]

Thats an option as well.

Perhaps something like 4-8-12-16, and then +1 if you get the series score exact, 0 if you're off by one, -1 if you're off by two, and -2 if you're off by three.

What happens then if you pick the wrong team. Do you lose 3 pts then?

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I liked the way it has been set up already, i think if there are going to be changes the only one i would personally choose is heavier points as we get deeper in the playoffs.

Such as what? We currently award 5 points for each correct series winner picked.

Would you rather see a 5-10-15-20 points structure? 5-7-9-11? 4-8-12-16?

Edited June 6, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

What happens then if you pick the wrong team. Do you lose 3 pts then?

No, I was thinking then you just get 0 points for that series.

Meaning, lets say the you picked the Wings to win the first round next year by a series score of 4-2. They go on to win 4-0. You would receive 4 points for picking the correct winner, but subtract 1 point because you were off by 2 games, thus giving you 3 total points for that matchup.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Personally, I like the idea of going with the 4-8-12-16 system because I fear that doubling the points for each round is too rewarding of people toward the end of the game. Sometimes the hardest series' to predict are the early rounds, so I feel a multiples structure would be a great compromise between keeping it at 5 points per round and doubling the points each round.

Here's my vote, but please continue to throw ideas out there so we can continue to have the best game possible:

1. 4-8-12-16 for picking the correct series winner in each respective round.

2. The bonus structure for picking the amount of games stays the same (3 for being exact, 2 for being one off, 1 for being two off, and 0 for being three off)

3. Have everyone pick a Western and Eastern Conference Champion as well as who they feel will be the Stanley Cup Champion. 3 points for each one you are correct in picking. This will help things become really exciting as the playoffs go further.

[timothy1997 0]

Personally, I like the idea of going with the 4-8-12-16 system because I fear that doubling the points for each round is too rewarding of people toward the end of the game. Sometimes the hardest series' to predict are the early rounds, so I feel a multiples structure would be a great compromise between keeping it at 5 points per round and doubling the points each round.

Here's my vote, but please continue to throw ideas out there so we can continue to have the best game possible:

1. 4-8-12-16 for picking the correct series winner in each respective round.

2. The bonus structure for picking the amount of games stays the same (3 for being exact, 2 for being one off, 1 for being two off, and 0 for being three off)

3. Have everyone pick a Western and Eastern Conference Champion as well as who they feel will be the Stanley Cup Champion. 3 points for each one you are correct in picking. This will help things become really exciting as the playoffs go further.

I take it the Western and Eastern Conference predictions are due prior to the start of the 1st round.

I like this format tho. Worth at least next year to see if we still like it.

Edited June 6, 2008 by timothy1997

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I take it the Western and Eastern Conference predictions are due prior to the start of the 1st round.

I like this format tho. Worth at least next year to see if we still like it.

Absolutely, as well as the SCF winner prediction.

[Lidstrom5 D-Man 0]

You can make any changes you like because it's your game. As for me, I've played the last two seasons (came in second TWICE! Next year, watch out!!) I enjoyed it both years the way it is. I like the simplicity of it all too.

I'll be happy either way (changes or not). Thanks for all the math you did!!